Comments on: The Movie Everyone’s Talking About http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:58:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Stumax.com http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3107 Stumax.com Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:41:08 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3107 <strong>A few thoughts on Fahrenheit 9/11</strong> I haven’t seen the movie yet (I’ll probably go tonight), but the read I’m getting on Fahrenheit 9/11 is “flawed but worth a look.” Spinsanity takes us through some of the flaws. A few thoughts on Fahrenheit 9/11

I haven’t seen the movie yet (I’ll probably go tonight), but the read I’m getting on Fahrenheit 9/11 is “flawed but worth a look.” Spinsanity takes us through some of the flaws.

]]> By: Hieronymus Braintree http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3106 Hieronymus Braintree Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:43:13 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3106 Johnathan, you are wrong. The bin Ladens DID fly in closed airspace ? to collect them all together for flying out of the country. Snopes went along with your line and wound up eating crow. http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm And here's a link to the St. Petersburg Times article: http://www.saintpetersburgtimes.com/2004/06/09/Tampabay/TIA_now_verifies_flig.shtml Not that there's anything wrong with eating crow. Eating crow is something everyone ought to try now and then. Mmmm. Crow. Johnathan, you are wrong. The bin Ladens DID fly in closed airspace ? to collect them all together for flying out of the country. Snopes went along with your line and wound up eating crow.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm

And here’s a link to the St. Petersburg Times article: http://www.saintpetersburgtimes.com/2004/06/09/Tampabay/TIA_now_verifies_flig.shtml

Not that there’s anything wrong with eating crow. Eating crow is something everyone ought to try now and then. Mmmm. Crow.

]]> By: oyster http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3105 oyster Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:05:13 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3105 To respect and honor my readers' time, my review thoughtfully <a href="http://righthandthief.blogspot.com/2004/06/whats-gotten-into-that-cat.html" rel="nofollow">COMBINES both Garfield and F9/11.</a> To respect and honor my readers’ time, my review thoughtfully COMBINES both Garfield and F9/11.

]]> By: Jonathan Scott Chinn http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3104 Jonathan Scott Chinn Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:55:55 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3104 The Bin Laden flights didn't fly in closed airspace. Even Moore doesn't make that allegation. The Bin Laden flights were put first in line when the flight ban was lifted, with special influence from the White House, which originated with a request from Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar. <i>Fahrenheit 9/11</i> is a deeply flawed but worthwhile film. I think I land a few legitimate punches in <a href="http://esoteria.typepad.com/tuxedo/2004/06/fahrenheit_911_.html" rel="nofollow">my review</a>, but I invite you to read it and decide for yourself. The Bin Laden flights didn’t fly in closed airspace. Even Moore doesn’t make that allegation. The Bin Laden flights were put first in line when the flight ban was lifted, with special influence from the White House, which originated with a request from Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar.

Fahrenheit 9/11 is a deeply flawed but worthwhile film. I think I land a few legitimate punches in my review, but I invite you to read it and decide for yourself.

]]> By: Hieronymus Braintree http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3103 Hieronymus Braintree Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:28:51 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3103 I have a hard time not coming away with the impression that all these liberal/left attacks on Michael Moore are just so much ass covering. So far, no one's been able to truly land a punch. The closest is his strange inarticulateness on the bin Ladens' getaway. The point is that private flights ferrying bin Ladens were able to travel accross the country when all other private aircraft were grounded and that, while the FBI was able to so some questioning of the bin Ladens, it was exceedingly skimpy in view of the enormity of the crime being investigated. That got lost in the film. Moore is outrageous. The real question is is he unfair? So far no one's really made that case yet the left continues to treat him as a near tar baby, if you'll forgive the expression. Is that fair or are we just being cowards? I have a hard time not coming away with the impression that all these liberal/left attacks on Michael Moore are just so much ass covering. So far, no one’s been able to truly land a punch. The closest is his strange inarticulateness on the bin Ladens’ getaway. The point is that private flights ferrying bin Ladens were able to travel accross the country when all other private aircraft were grounded and that, while the FBI was able to so some questioning of the bin Ladens, it was exceedingly skimpy in view of the enormity of the crime being investigated. That got lost in the film.

Moore is outrageous. The real question is is he unfair? So far no one’s really made that case yet the left continues to treat him as a near tar baby, if you’ll forgive the expression.

Is that fair or are we just being cowards?

]]> By: BlondeSense http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3102 BlondeSense Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:43:09 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3102 The part about the Marines recruiting the kids really hit home for me! The Marine recruiters were hitting on the local public high school here on Long Island. My son's best friend fell for it and joined the Marines. He left exactly one year ago today. They completely brainwashed him leading up to his departure. It was very hard for me because I knew this family for the boys whole life as they live 4 houses down from me. We live in a very Republican neighborhood. I walk with the boys mom everyday. It was hard last summer to keep my mouth shut when we walked because I was terrified for her son and my heart was broken. Eventually I got through to her and her husband that we cannot elect Bush and that the war is wrong. We prayed and prayed that her son wouldn't go to Iraq. It was very strange that her son for some reason throughout his training would screw up somehow and be left back and have to retrain and join another platoon while the platoon he left would deploy to Iraq... so for the past year, he fortunately kept missing out on going to Iraq! We just got word that he has asthma and is being honorably discharged. Apparently they have no deskjob for him. If you can't fight in a war, they have no use for you. Weird. I wonder if they are going to give him the college money they promised? The recruiters gave him such a hard sell. Why didn't the Marines test him for asthma a year ago? Well whaever.. I am so fucking happy that he is coming home. He is disappointed that his dream was squashed. I kind of don't blame him for that.. but I don't care. He is coming home. He is coming home. He was like a son to me. That Michael Moore segment was very true though. Very true. I was near my son once when the Marine approached him. I ran up to them and made the sign of the cross with the fingers and told them to go away. heh. I even hissed at them. The recruiters are the used car salesmen of the military. They will say anything to steal your children. Enough said. The part about the Marines recruiting the kids really hit home for me! The Marine recruiters were hitting on the local public high school here on Long Island. My son’s best friend fell for it and joined the Marines. He left exactly one year ago today. They completely brainwashed him leading up to his departure. It was very hard for me because I knew this family for the boys whole life as they live 4 houses down from me.
We live in a very Republican neighborhood. I walk with the boys mom everyday. It was hard last summer to keep my mouth shut when we walked because I was terrified for her son and my heart was broken. Eventually I got through to her and her husband that we cannot elect Bush and that the war is wrong.
We prayed and prayed that her son wouldn’t go to Iraq. It was very strange that her son for some reason throughout his training would screw up somehow and be left back and have to retrain and join another platoon while the platoon he left would deploy to Iraq… so for the past year, he fortunately kept missing out on going to Iraq!
We just got word that he has asthma and is being honorably discharged. Apparently they have no deskjob for him. If you can’t fight in a war, they have no use for you. Weird. I wonder if they are going to give him the college money they promised? The recruiters gave him such a hard sell. Why didn’t the Marines test him for asthma a year ago?

Well whaever.. I am so fucking happy that he is coming home. He is disappointed that his dream was squashed. I kind of don’t blame him for that.. but I don’t care. He is coming home. He is coming home. He was like a son to me.

That Michael Moore segment was very true though. Very true. I was near my son once when the Marine approached him. I ran up to them and made the sign of the cross with the fingers and told them to go away. heh. I even hissed at them. The recruiters are the used car salesmen of the military. They will say anything to steal your children.

Enough said.

]]> By: E-Rock http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/06/29/the-movie-everyones-talking-about/comment-page-1/#comment-3101 E-Rock Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:42:48 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/wp/?p=1071#comment-3101 I agree with you about the "Classic Moore" sequences being out of place. I went in expecting to be rubbed the wrong way. I wasn't. Only occassionally did I feel a little irked (yay, Mike, you made fun of the President's public speaking! You're so clever!), but on the whole, I'm glad I saw the movie. As I wrote on my site, I don't agree with what I see as Moore's proposition, but that doesn't mean that the movie isn't worth watching. It's like Bowling For Columbine. Whether Moore was untruthful or not, whether you agree with him or not, the movie raises questions that the public should be debating. Right now, we <i>should</i> be wondering whether we should remain on this path or not, and I <b>don't</b> think the answer is clear cut. I agree with you about the “Classic Moore” sequences being out of place. I went in expecting to be rubbed the wrong way. I wasn’t. Only occassionally did I feel a little irked (yay, Mike, you made fun of the President’s public speaking! You’re so clever!), but on the whole, I’m glad I saw the movie. As I wrote on my site, I don’t agree with what I see as Moore’s proposition, but that doesn’t mean that the movie isn’t worth watching. It’s like Bowling For Columbine. Whether Moore was untruthful or not, whether you agree with him or not, the movie raises questions that the public should be debating. Right now, we should be wondering whether we should remain on this path or not, and I don’t think the answer is clear cut.

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