Unity, My Ass
Bush just said he would “work to earn” our trust. Well, you’ve got an uphill battle, Mr. President. You didn’t have a mandate in 2000, but governed as if God put you in office. You pissed away all the domestic and international goodwill that followed 9/11 by using the attacks as an excuse to push through your agenda. Every action you’ve taken since your inauguration has served to further marginalize anyone who doesn’t agree with you. And last night you were given the mandate that you were denied four years ago. Why should we believe a word you say now?
To paraphrase a retarded cowboy, your conciliatory rhetoric doesn’t match your record as an asshole.
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Greg-Is there not a gracious bone in your body? Is your anit-Bush vitriol so potent that you are unable to even *consider* the possibility that he was being sincere? Are you really such a sore loser that you’ll be talking about this loss for 4 years, too?
-Keith
Comment by Keith Hutchins — November 3, 2004 @ 12:47 pm
Ditto. Greg, thanks for continuing to keep our dander up.
Let’s use the “I’ll do anything I can to earn your trust” quote against Bush every chance we get. I pledge to–any other takers?
Comment by Robin Morris — November 3, 2004 @ 12:49 pm
HE was talking to his base, not AMERICA in general. He won the popular vote, and while I know that this is not the way people get elected here, it shows that somewhere his fearmongering and tactics got him lots of votes.
FOUR MORE WARS
Comment by KMG — November 3, 2004 @ 12:52 pm
This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE. The sooner you learn to deal with it, the sooner you can start campaigning for Hillary.
-Keith
Comment by Keith Hutchins — November 3, 2004 @ 12:59 pm
Why should I believe him now when he was spewing the same “unity” bullshit four years ago? He’s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn’t taken a single one. He won yesterday by playing on the fears and prejudices of his base. Now that they’ve given him a mandate, he has even less reason to be civil to his political opponents than ever before. His words ring hollow to me. If he actually does work to earn my respect, I’ll be shocked.
Comment by greg — November 3, 2004 @ 1:04 pm
AMERICA is not his base, America constitutes the 51% of people that voted for him and the 49% of the people that did not vote for him. It is not as if 90% of the people voted for him, which would show a great weight behind him. Isn’t it interesting how states that benefit most from the taxes are the ones that are the reddest? What will they say once they have starved the beast that much that they won’t get any money, will that be also the fault of the libruls in congress? or activist judges?
Comment by kmg — November 3, 2004 @ 1:11 pm
Greg Said:
“He’s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn’t taken a single one.”
Campaign finance reform: McCain and Feingold are both right-wingers, I guess.
No Child Left Behind: Working with Ted Kennedy is really playing to the left wing.
And I assure you he took major hits from conservatives for both of these.
-Keith
Comment by Keith Hutchins — November 3, 2004 @ 1:12 pm
The only thing Bush did with this bill was sign it. Besides, the consensus at the time was that the soft money ban in the bill would hurt Democrats much more than Republicans.
And we’re still waiting for Bush to put our money where his mouth is.
Comment by greg — November 3, 2004 @ 1:46 pm
“This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE.”
This is statistically an obvious stretch. That being said however, his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.
I am a Democrat and am sickened by the election results.
The enormous turnout was Bush’s base, the evangelical Christians. Moral issues was the number one reason for them getting out to vote. The lessons are there and my honest hope is that the Democrats aren’t so elitist or fancy themselves so intellectual that they continue to alienate people of faith. Like it or not they are there and aren’t going away… unfortunately, ever.
Comment by Kevin — November 3, 2004 @ 5:46 pm
Kevin said “That being said however, his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.”
Which is more or less my point. The liberal point of view is becoming more and more a marginal dinosaur. But you’ll never see an electorate made up of idealogues on either side. The average American just isn’t that commited to one side or another.
The only hope of the Democrat party is to become the “less conservative” conservative party it was years ago when one of my personal heroes Sam Rayburn ran it.
-Keith
Comment by Keith Hutchins — November 3, 2004 @ 5:56 pm
No, the problem is that the electorate has bought into the Republican’s “moral values” rhetoric again and again. John Edwards and Barak Obama are the future of the Democratic Party not because they’re less liberal, but because they speak the same language as Republicans.
When a party expends all of its energy trying to protect “unborn” children, but doesn’t bother trying to provide health care for them once they’re born, that’s a moral issue. When a party puts more value in tax cuts on unearned income (estate tax, capital gains) than what average Americans are working two jobs to bring home (payroll taxes), that’s a moral issue. Etc…
Yes, I’m sure you’d love for the opposition party to become a watered down version of who’s gonna get your vote.
Ain’t gonna happen. Even in losing, Kerry got more of the undecided vote than Bush. We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.
Comment by greg — November 3, 2004 @ 6:15 pm
“We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.”
The thing that scares the crap out of me is that our people went to the polls and in record numbers and we still got sodomized.
In the end, I guess Jerry Falwell and Ralph Ried are better at getting out the vote than P. Diddy and the Boss.
Comment by Kevin — November 3, 2004 @ 7:18 pm
The USA is a Republic. It has never been a Democracy. The election was won by the party that stands for the values this nation was built on.
The media has falsely portrayed this nation as anti-Christian and anti-family values, overly pro-gay and pro-minority, to such an extent that some stupid bastards have actually believed that the media has been telling the truth.
The truth is, those gay and anti-Christian sects are a very small minority. The squeaky wheel has been getting plenty of grease, for a long time, and has made them more influential than they really ought to be, given their size, in numbers, compared to number of traditional Americans.
Historically, conservative Christians, and Republicans in general, have been a reactive bunch. The “Frozen Chosen”. In the past, they would piss and moan about how wrong things were, but would do nothing to change things. They would “pray about it”, or some other excuse for not participating in the political processes that govern this nation. Maybe those days are over. Democrats need to be prepared to face that possible reality.
Whatever the issues and arguements may be, this election showed our nation’s true colors. Christians that normally just talk, and fail to act, took action. They finally got pissed off by their destiny being influenced by the minority that despises them and their God. This is a wakeup call to Democrats. The electoral system is alive and well. It works properly.
Democrats can no longer count on conservative Republicans living a mediocre existence over which they exercise no effort to influence its outcome. They are no longer willing to stay home and bitch about things not going as they hoped. They are voting. They are speaking to their politicians. The are becoming more and more pro-active. And who are the liberals to complain about it? Guess where they leaned it from? Their voice, like ours, is being heard. There are more of theirs, and theirs are becoming louder.
The team with the most players wins. Democrats are losers because they are outnumbered. Its time to acknowledge that and move on.
So, Mr. Homo and Ms. Butch… maybe its time to gussy up the closet and get comfy there. You are not going to be asked to join the family in the living room, for a long time… maybe never.
Comment by Happy — November 6, 2004 @ 11:02 am