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		<title>By: Happy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4997</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA is a Republic. It has never been a Democracy. The election was won by the party that stands for the values this nation was built on.

The media has falsely portrayed this nation as  anti-Christian and anti-family values, overly pro-gay and pro-minority, to such an extent that some stupid bastards have actually believed that the media has been telling the truth.

The truth is, those gay and anti-Christian sects are a very small minority. The squeaky wheel has been getting plenty of grease, for a long time, and has made them more influential than they really ought to be, given their size, in numbers, compared to number of traditional Americans.

Historically, conservative Christians, and Republicans in general, have been a reactive bunch. The &quot;Frozen Chosen&quot;. In the past, they would piss and moan about how wrong things were, but would do nothing to change things. They would &quot;pray about it&quot;, or some other excuse for not participating in the political processes that govern this nation. Maybe those days are over. Democrats need to be prepared to face that possible reality.

Whatever the issues and arguements may be, this election showed our nation&#039;s true colors. Christians that normally just talk, and fail to act, took action. They finally got pissed off by their destiny being influenced by the minority that despises them and their God. This is a wakeup call to Democrats. The electoral system is alive and well. It works properly. 

Democrats can no longer count on conservative Republicans living a mediocre existence over which they exercise no effort to influence its outcome. They are no longer willing to stay home and bitch about things not going as they hoped. They are voting. They are speaking to their politicians. The are becoming more and more pro-active. And who are the liberals to complain about it? Guess where they leaned it from? Their voice, like ours, is being heard. There are more of theirs, and theirs are becoming louder.

The team with the most players wins. Democrats are losers because they are outnumbered. Its time to acknowledge that and move on.

So, Mr. Homo and Ms. Butch... maybe its time to gussy up the closet and get comfy there. You are not going to be asked to join the family in the living room, for a long time... maybe never.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is a Republic. It has never been a Democracy. The election was won by the party that stands for the values this nation was built on.</p>
<p>The media has falsely portrayed this nation as  anti-Christian and anti-family values, overly pro-gay and pro-minority, to such an extent that some stupid bastards have actually believed that the media has been telling the truth.</p>
<p>The truth is, those gay and anti-Christian sects are a very small minority. The squeaky wheel has been getting plenty of grease, for a long time, and has made them more influential than they really ought to be, given their size, in numbers, compared to number of traditional Americans.</p>
<p>Historically, conservative Christians, and Republicans in general, have been a reactive bunch. The &#8220;Frozen Chosen&#8221;. In the past, they would piss and moan about how wrong things were, but would do nothing to change things. They would &#8220;pray about it&#8221;, or some other excuse for not participating in the political processes that govern this nation. Maybe those days are over. Democrats need to be prepared to face that possible reality.</p>
<p>Whatever the issues and arguements may be, this election showed our nation&#8217;s true colors. Christians that normally just talk, and fail to act, took action. They finally got pissed off by their destiny being influenced by the minority that despises them and their God. This is a wakeup call to Democrats. The electoral system is alive and well. It works properly. </p>
<p>Democrats can no longer count on conservative Republicans living a mediocre existence over which they exercise no effort to influence its outcome. They are no longer willing to stay home and bitch about things not going as they hoped. They are voting. They are speaking to their politicians. The are becoming more and more pro-active. And who are the liberals to complain about it? Guess where they leaned it from? Their voice, like ours, is being heard. There are more of theirs, and theirs are becoming louder.</p>
<p>The team with the most players wins. Democrats are losers because they are outnumbered. Its time to acknowledge that and move on.</p>
<p>So, Mr. Homo and Ms. Butch&#8230; maybe its time to gussy up the closet and get comfy there. You are not going to be asked to join the family in the living room, for a long time&#8230; maybe never.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4996</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.&quot;

The thing that scares the crap out of me is that our people went to the polls and in record numbers and we still got sodomized.  

In the end, I guess Jerry Falwell and Ralph Ried are better at getting out the vote than P. Diddy and the Boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing that scares the crap out of me is that our people went to the polls and in record numbers and we still got sodomized.  </p>
<p>In the end, I guess Jerry Falwell and Ralph Ried are better at getting out the vote than P. Diddy and the Boss.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The liberal point of view is becoming more and more a marginal dinosaur.&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, the problem is that the electorate has bought into the Republican&#039;s &quot;moral values&quot; rhetoric again and again. John Edwards and Barak Obama are the future of the Democratic Party not because they&#039;re less liberal, but because they speak the same language as Republicans.

When a party expends all of its energy trying to protect &quot;unborn&quot; children, but doesn&#039;t bother trying to provide health care for them once they&#039;re born, that&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;moral&lt;/i&gt; issue. When a party puts more value in tax cuts on unearned income (estate tax, capital gains) than what average Americans are working two jobs to bring home (payroll taxes), that&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;moral&lt;/i&gt; issue. Etc...&lt;blockquote&gt;The only hope of the Democrat party is to become the &quot;less conservative&quot; conservative party it was years ago when one of my personal heroes Sam Rayburn ran it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, I&#039;m sure you&#039;d love for the opposition party to become a watered down version of who&#039;s gonna get your vote. 

Ain&#039;t gonna happen. Even in losing, Kerry got more of the undecided vote than Bush. We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The liberal point of view is becoming more and more a marginal dinosaur.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, the problem is that the electorate has bought into the Republican&#8217;s &#8220;moral values&#8221; rhetoric again and again. John Edwards and Barak Obama are the future of the Democratic Party not because they&#8217;re less liberal, but because they speak the same language as Republicans.</p>
<p>When a party expends all of its energy trying to protect &#8220;unborn&#8221; children, but doesn&#8217;t bother trying to provide health care for them once they&#8217;re born, that&#8217;s a <i>moral</i> issue. When a party puts more value in tax cuts on unearned income (estate tax, capital gains) than what average Americans are working two jobs to bring home (payroll taxes), that&#8217;s a <i>moral</i> issue. Etc&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>The only hope of the Democrat party is to become the &#8220;less conservative&#8221; conservative party it was years ago when one of my personal heroes Sam Rayburn ran it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d love for the opposition party to become a watered down version of who&#8217;s gonna get your vote. </p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t gonna happen. Even in losing, Kerry got more of the undecided vote than Bush. We need a stronger organization, clearer message, and better strategy to get our people to the polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Hutchins</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4994</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Hutchins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin said &quot;That being said however, his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.&quot;

Which is more or less my point. The liberal point of view is becoming more and more a marginal dinosaur. But you&#039;ll never see an electorate made up of idealogues on either side. The average American just isn&#039;t that commited to one side or another. 

The only hope of the Democrat party is to become the &quot;less conservative&quot; conservative party it was years ago when one of my personal heroes Sam Rayburn ran it.

-Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin said &#8220;That being said however, his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is more or less my point. The liberal point of view is becoming more and more a marginal dinosaur. But you&#8217;ll never see an electorate made up of idealogues on either side. The average American just isn&#8217;t that commited to one side or another. </p>
<p>The only hope of the Democrat party is to become the &#8220;less conservative&#8221; conservative party it was years ago when one of my personal heroes Sam Rayburn ran it.</p>
<p>-Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4993</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE.&quot;

This is statistically an obvious stretch.  That being said however,  his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.  

I am a Democrat and am sickened by the election results.

The enormous turnout was Bush&#039;s base, the evangelical Christians.  Moral issues was the number one reason for them getting out to vote.  The lessons are there and my honest hope is that the Democrats aren&#039;t so elitist or fancy themselves so intellectual that they continue to alienate people of faith. Like it or not they are there and aren&#039;t going away... unfortunately, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is statistically an obvious stretch.  That being said however,  his base is now a driving force behind what will become in the near future an American electorate that consists of a clear Republican majority.  </p>
<p>I am a Democrat and am sickened by the election results.</p>
<p>The enormous turnout was Bush&#8217;s base, the evangelical Christians.  Moral issues was the number one reason for them getting out to vote.  The lessons are there and my honest hope is that the Democrats aren&#8217;t so elitist or fancy themselves so intellectual that they continue to alienate people of faith. Like it or not they are there and aren&#8217;t going away&#8230; unfortunately, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4992</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Campaign finance reform: McCain and Feingold are both right-wingers, I guess.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The only thing Bush did with this bill was sign it. Besides, the consensus at the time was that the soft money ban in the bill would hurt Democrats much more than Republicans.&lt;blockquote&gt;No Child Left Behind: Working with Ted Kennedy is really playing to the left wing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And we&#039;re &lt;i&gt;still &lt;/i&gt;waiting for Bush to put our money where his mouth is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Campaign finance reform: McCain and Feingold are both right-wingers, I guess.</p></blockquote>
<p>The only thing Bush did with this bill was sign it. Besides, the consensus at the time was that the soft money ban in the bill would hurt Democrats much more than Republicans.<br />
<blockquote>No Child Left Behind: Working with Ted Kennedy is really playing to the left wing.</p></blockquote>
<p>And we&#8217;re <i>still </i>waiting for Bush to put our money where his mouth is.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Hutchins</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2004/11/03/unity-my-ass/comment-page-1/#comment-4991</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Hutchins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Said:
&quot;He&#039;s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn&#039;t taken a single one.&quot;

Campaign finance reform: McCain and Feingold are both right-wingers, I guess.

No Child Left Behind: Working with Ted Kennedy is really playing to the left wing.

And I assure you he took major hits from conservatives for both of these.

-Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Said:<br />
&#8220;He&#8217;s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn&#8217;t taken a single one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Campaign finance reform: McCain and Feingold are both right-wingers, I guess.</p>
<p>No Child Left Behind: Working with Ted Kennedy is really playing to the left wing.</p>
<p>And I assure you he took major hits from conservatives for both of these.</p>
<p>-Keith</p>
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		<title>By: kmg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMERICA is not his base, America constitutes the 51% of people that voted for him and the 49% of the people that did not vote for him.  It is not as if 90% of the people voted for him, which would show a great weight behind him.  Isn&#039;t it interesting how states that benefit most from the taxes are the ones that are the reddest?  What will they say once they have starved the beast that much that they won&#039;t get any money, will that be also the fault of the libruls in congress? or activist judges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMERICA is not his base, America constitutes the 51% of people that voted for him and the 49% of the people that did not vote for him.  It is not as if 90% of the people voted for him, which would show a great weight behind him.  Isn&#8217;t it interesting how states that benefit most from the taxes are the ones that are the reddest?  What will they say once they have starved the beast that much that they won&#8217;t get any money, will that be also the fault of the libruls in congress? or activist judges?</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is your anit-Bush vitriol so potent that you are unable to even *consider* the possibility that he was being sincere?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Why should I believe him now when he was spewing the same &quot;unity&quot; bullshit four years ago? He&#039;s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn&#039;t taken a single one. He won yesterday by playing on the fears and prejudices of his base. Now that they&#039;ve given him a mandate, he has even less reason to be civil to his political opponents than ever before. His words ring hollow to me. If he actually does work to earn my respect, I&#039;ll be &lt;i&gt;shocked&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is your anit-Bush vitriol so potent that you are unable to even *consider* the possibility that he was being sincere?</p></blockquote>
<p>Why should I believe him now when he was spewing the same &#8220;unity&#8221; bullshit four years ago? He&#8217;s had plenty of opporunities to reach out to moderates, but he hasn&#8217;t taken a single one. He won yesterday by playing on the fears and prejudices of his base. Now that they&#8217;ve given him a mandate, he has even less reason to be civil to his political opponents than ever before. His words ring hollow to me. If he actually does work to earn my respect, I&#8217;ll be <i>shocked</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Hutchins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Hutchins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE. The sooner you learn to deal with it, the sooner you can start campaigning for Hillary.
-Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election proved that America in general IS HIS BASE. The sooner you learn to deal with it, the sooner you can start campaigning for Hillary.<br />
-Keith</p>
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