Comments on: Jeb Legalizes Murder

By: International Jewelry

International Jewelry — Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:45:21 +0000

God, I WISH it would have an effect on the crime rate in Florida. Shoot first, fuck the questions. Florida, like Falujiah (sp.) should be a free-fire zone.

By: Becky

Becky — Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:27:06 +0000

So if Michael Schiavo had gone in Terri’s room and shot her for attacking him which according to Tom Delay and Bill Frist she was completely capable of doing, it would be okay. It would have been much easier and as we know most pro life advocates are also pro gun. Everyone wins.

By: Erin

Erin — Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:23:39 +0000

Although, I tend to agree with you on most things, I too don’t think this willl have any effect on the crime rate in Florida
From a Reuters: article: “The new bill… allow[s] citizens to use deadly force in a public place if they have a reasonable belief they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. It applies to all means of force that may result in death, although the legislative debate focused on guns.”

It sounds like a harsh result but most jurisdictions allow this self-defense anyway… if charged with homicide (and most likely they would be if they killed someone in public) the person claiming self-defense would still have to show beyond a reasonable doubt the elements of self-defense or they will be convicted of homicide… this won’t be an awesome out for the asshole who wants his ex-girlfried dead

By: Guav

Guav — Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:13:34 +0000

I know they are two different things, I’m just saying that everytime something like this comes up?the concealed carry law, the “assault rifle ban” sunset?the gun control crowd goes into hysterics about how it’s going to be the “Wild West” and people will be “mowing each other down” for every little fender bender that occurs.

And it never materializes.

All I’m saying is that this law, though completely unnecessary, is unlikely to have any notable effect. You’re already legally allowed to use your firearm to defend yourself in a provable self-defense situation.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:40:17 +0000

The right to carry a concealed weapon and the right to discharge it in public are two different things. A guy carrying a gun is less likely to use it if he thinks he might go to jail. But, if some macho prick thinks he’s got a good reason and won’t go to jail, he just might shoot.

Personally, if a bunch of Floridians kill each other I don’t really care. I’m already boycotting Florida anyway, so lock & load!

BTW – you won’t see an explosion in the MURDER rate (since murder is illegal), but the number of legal, gunshot-related deaths might go up.

By: Guav

Guav — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:39:19 +0000

We've heard this all before.
In 1987, Florida passed the first concealed carry law. Opponents were hysterical, claiming that Florida would be "awash in blood" if ordinary citizens could go lawfully armed. They said "it will turn Florida into the Wild West."
It never happened.
In fact, violent crime dropped dramatically and has stayed down. I won't claim that the CCW law made the crime rate drop, but it's an undeniable fact that it CERTAINLY did not raise it.
Since 1987, Florida has issued close to a million licenses for lawful carry. Less than 1% have have done anything wrong with a firearm that would require that their license be revoked, and it's usually something like accidentally bringing it into a courthouse or airport.
Following Florida's success, 37 more states have passed CCW laws of varying degrees. More people than ever before in our history are carrying concealed weapons, yet crime rates are remaining low. In Vermont, you don't even need a permit to carry a concealed handgun. In Virginia, you don't even have to conceal it.
Last time I checked, Vermont and Virginia weren't the Wild West, and I doubt Florida will be.
The sky isn't falling, I promise.