Hi Everyone, Ross here. The following are my views. My comments on a certain moderate blogger’s veiws reflect my opinion alone.
In the post before this one, Greg links to Kevin Drum, citing his (rightful) disagreement with that fat Drunken waste of oxygen, professional asshole Christopher Hitchen’s ridiculous homophobia. Unfortunately, Drum isn’t so mindful when it comes to the drive to point out the unexpressable hypocrisy present in conservative war supporters without the balls to serve.
In the same post Greg linked to, Drum also opened his keyboard and allowed this to slip out:
I actually agree with the overall gist of Christopher Hitchens’ latest column in Slate. He argues that it’s absurd to think you’ve scored some kind of withering putdown of war supporters by pointing out that most of them (and their sons) haven’t volunteered for duty. Since I support police, fire, and social welfare programs despite the fact that I’m not a police officer, a firefighter, or a social worker, I think he’s right on this.
Really Kevin? REALLY? I mean, you’re not kidding?
You honestly can’t see the goddamned difference between supporting community protection, and urging the nation to fight an unjust war based on lies, and not having the balls to fight in the war?
You can’t see how ridiculous it is that the biggest supporters of the war can’t be bothered to risk their precious, pathetic privileged little lives, to fight in it?
While friends of mine are one transfer slip away from being blown up in Baghdad because they had the courage to do what these little republican pansies can’t, which is to enlist? While people I know came back from that war unable to sleep, changed into people I barely recognize? For a lie?
Luckily, Digby, who is far more capable of processing outright disgust without resorting to profanities than I am, had this to say about Drum’s absurd inability to see the difference between things that are so obviously different that even difference itself is forced to distance itself from the concept. Here’s digby:
Joining up to fight a war you support is quite different from these other things. A war is a temporary emergency while police work and firefighting are ongoing necessities to deal with everyday occasions of individual misconduct or accident. If there was an earthquake in Kevin’s neighborhood and they called for able bodied men and women to volunteer to help dig bodies out of the rubble, I suspect he’d be there.
But this war in Iraq, like Vietnam, presents an even more obvious illustration of why this is true. Any nation that wages a war of choice wholly for ideological and political reasons, particularly when it is opposed by large numbers of its own citizens, should require that those who share those ideological and political goals help with the physical fighting. In fact, they should lead the fighting. It is unfair in the extreme that stop loss orders and extended tours are being forced upon the “volunteer” army when those who support the war are unwilling to put themselves in physical danger. Self defense is one thing. Requiring others to die for your crusade is another.
The reason, in Kevin’s unjustly snarky terminology, that it’s a “withering putdown”, is that people are in Iraq, right now, today, and they’re dying for a lie. A lie that Kevin was only too happy to push in the runup to war, even if he didn’t think it was a lie at the time.
I don’t mean to make this personal, and I’m trying not to. I dont doubt that Kevin is a good person, but I can’t handle such brazen, self centered myopia.
Kevin got credibility during the lead up to the war as a ‘reasonable liberal’, but like everyone else who entertained notions that there might be a reasonable justification for invading iraq, he was wrong. If only people like Kevin Drum could simply admit, just one fucking time, now, that not only was the war wrong, it IS STILL wrong. And furthermore, that the people supporting it, the ones who don’t fight, are brazen hypcrites, cowards, less than scum who risk everything this country stands for so they can feel like their dicks are enormous.
People are dying for the ego, impotence and greed of sad, miserly cowards too chickenshit to ever set foot in combat, much less risk even joining the military of which they claim to be so proud. Kevin’s obtuse observations are simply disgraceful.
A better comparison than the inept one made by Drum would be, oh I don’t know, how about this one:
Lets imagine a rich unintelligent cokehead, the son of a Senator and vice President, who abused mind erasing drugs, and used connections to get out of well deserved jailtime for Drunk Driving, and then having the audacity to call himself a “Law And Order” type.
Let’s imagine also that same shithead, using daddy’s connections to get out of the war in vietnam, a war he supported.
Let’s imagine even more also that same shithead, using daddy’s connections to get out of the war in vietnam, surrounding himself later in life with people who never bothered to serve in a war they supported, now sending the sons of the poor to die for them.
How’s that? Any clearer?
UPDATE: Thank God that Kevin’s readership is also capable of seeing through this incredible, inexcusable bullshit. Click the link to read through the comments. There’s also something else I hadn’t considered. not only is Kevin just being dickishly obtuse, he’s also being politically retarded:
As one of his commentors said:
His argument may be logical. It may even be mathematically correct.
But politics isn’t about logic and the integrity of axiomatic systems.
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That the argument may have a fine-line flaw doesn’t matter.
What matters is that it makes repugs recoil.
It is like a hard smash to the tip of the conservative nose.
Furthermore it appeals to people’s passions.
Which is to say: you wanted the fucking war moron, now go fight it.
That’s simple and powerful and fundamentally true.
But oh no… leave it to the learned egghead liberal elite to toss this live ammo into the sand by comparing the domestic need for nurses to strapping on an AK-47 and doing Bush’s gamma-minus work in Iraq.
Not only is he being willfully clueless, he’s also dismissing and disrespecting his own side, giving aid and comfort to the Republicans who despise him.
And you know, I didn’t even mention how the Yellow Elephant tactic is also politically effective. Not only is it the morally right thing to do, it’s also fun to point out how the sniviling cowards who started this war are, in fact, sniveling cowards. Kevin’s unnesccesary dis makes me wonder if he’s just uninterested in actually winning against the Republicans.
I admit I’m being prickly about this - I’m sick and tired of seeming yes-men liberals soaking in the impression that people like Kevin are more eager to show how reasonable and agreeable they are, giving the appearance of currying favor, than they are in backing up the people on whose side they claim to be.
This isn’t patty cake, this is a war, and years from now we’ll recognize the defining political characteristic of our age as which side were you on. However, in the meantime, not only is he spouting off a ridiculously easily smashed logical fallacy, not only is he giving us yet another example of “see, even so-and-so doesn’t like the liberals”, he’s also wrong on this issue specifically. Kevin should be ashamed.