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	<title>Comments on: Are you ready for some FOOTBAALL, or some ultraviolence?</title>
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		<title>By: Mathwiz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/07/29/are-you-ready-for-some-footbaall-or-some-ultraviolence/comment-page-1/#comment-7371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: why Democratic politicians are so much more willing than Republican ones to sell out their base:

One reason, I think, is that up until the last year or two, the GOP base has been much more organized, dating back to the late 70&#039;s.

Thanks to blogs like yours, and things like Air America Radio (not to mention the unvarnished extremism of the Bush League) that&#039;s starting to change. But politicians like Sens. Clinton and (let&#039;s be honest) Kerry haven&#039;t come to terms with that yet. And let&#039;s face it, they have a point. The progressive base &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t &lt;/i&gt;succeed in nominating, say, Howard Dean last year - many rank-and-file Democrats were still willing to go with a sellout in the name of &quot;electability.&quot;

After his loss, Kerry - like Gore before him - started to move back to the liberal politics that defined him before the 1994 GOP landslide. Hillary hasn&#039;t caught on yet, though - after all, the politics of &quot;triangulation&quot; worked for her husband.

Thus, the question for 2008: will Democratic voters go for yet another &quot;electable&quot; sellout, ensuring that, even if they &quot;win,&quot; nothing much will change? Or will the progressive base finally nominate one of their own?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: why Democratic politicians are so much more willing than Republican ones to sell out their base:</p>
<p>One reason, I think, is that up until the last year or two, the GOP base has been much more organized, dating back to the late 70&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thanks to blogs like yours, and things like Air America Radio (not to mention the unvarnished extremism of the Bush League) that&#8217;s starting to change. But politicians like Sens. Clinton and (let&#8217;s be honest) Kerry haven&#8217;t come to terms with that yet. And let&#8217;s face it, they have a point. The progressive base <i>didn&#8217;t </i>succeed in nominating, say, Howard Dean last year &#8211; many rank-and-file Democrats were still willing to go with a sellout in the name of &#8220;electability.&#8221;</p>
<p>After his loss, Kerry &#8211; like Gore before him &#8211; started to move back to the liberal politics that defined him before the 1994 GOP landslide. Hillary hasn&#8217;t caught on yet, though &#8211; after all, the politics of &#8220;triangulation&#8221; worked for her husband.</p>
<p>Thus, the question for 2008: will Democratic voters go for yet another &#8220;electable&#8221; sellout, ensuring that, even if they &#8220;win,&#8221; nothing much will change? Or will the progressive base finally nominate one of their own?</p>
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		<title>By: James Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, when I started to read the LA Times piece, I thought the punchline was going to be  &quot;The War in Iraq.&quot;   In other words, instead of wasting money on studying something that might possibly in a few already unbalanced people lead to criminal activity, let&#039;s study what caused us to end up in a real war with real deaths on both sides- a war that turned out not only to be unnecessary to accomplish the goals stated by the Bush Administration, but one that actually made things worse.    

Of course, it strains credulity to imagine that a Republican controlled Congress would actually want to find out how the Republican President screwed up so very, very badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, when I started to read the LA Times piece, I thought the punchline was going to be  &#8220;The War in Iraq.&#8221;   In other words, instead of wasting money on studying something that might possibly in a few already unbalanced people lead to criminal activity, let&#8217;s study what caused us to end up in a real war with real deaths on both sides- a war that turned out not only to be unnecessary to accomplish the goals stated by the Bush Administration, but one that actually made things worse.    </p>
<p>Of course, it strains credulity to imagine that a Republican controlled Congress would actually want to find out how the Republican President screwed up so very, very badly.</p>
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		<title>By: mdhatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdhatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, in the real world GTA just hurts your thumbs, your tolerance for sunlight, and you chances at a date. No worse than SimCity. It can be played by anyone, anytime. 

Football dislocates limbs, must be played in expensive armor, and encourages young men to shower naked in the presence of middle aged men, nevermind the denigration and objectification of women on the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, in the real world GTA just hurts your thumbs, your tolerance for sunlight, and you chances at a date. No worse than SimCity. It can be played by anyone, anytime. </p>
<p>Football dislocates limbs, must be played in expensive armor, and encourages young men to shower naked in the presence of middle aged men, nevermind the denigration and objectification of women on the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: dAnimal</title>
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		<dc:creator>dAnimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and as Ross can probably attest, he&#039;s never been beaten up by a rogue band of GTA players after school.  Also, funds desperately needed for high school music programs aren&#039;t rerouted into buying uniforms for Grand Theft Auto teams and returfing Grand Theft Auto fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and as Ross can probably attest, he&#8217;s never been beaten up by a rogue band of GTA players after school.  Also, funds desperately needed for high school music programs aren&#8217;t rerouted into buying uniforms for Grand Theft Auto teams and returfing Grand Theft Auto fields.</p>
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