Forever committed to Love and Peace…Remember God Is Watching! Brian K Hoffman

It is first essential to understand that there are two distinct insurgencies, first the Sunni-led insurgency, which is fighting out of a sense of Iraqi nationalism and to protect the Sunni minority’s interests in Iraq,

There is no “Iraqi nationalism” except for the desire of the Sunni’s to regain control and the Shiite to prevent it. The Kurds just plain want out of the whole thing. Without a strongman “leading” the gov’t, Iraq will fall into at least three divisions.
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and the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist network of Zarqawi, which is engaged in a jihad to drive Americans and other Westerners out of the Middle East.

And they have found a home in Iraq that without a strong military presence by somebody/anybody will continue to be active. Unfortunately for the US that somebody/anybody is us for the foreseeable future.
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If the Americans and other Western forces weren’t in Iraq, two changes would likely occur: first, the draw for radicalized Islamic youth to infiltrate into Iraq and become suicide bombers would have disappeared;

If the new gov’t is not islamic fundy enough the suicide bombers will continue because the it will be viewed as too Western.
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second, Zarqawi’s limited usefulness to the Sunnis would soon dissipate. Indeed Sunnis have recently turned against Zarqawi’s fighters, such as in Ramadi

I find it difficult to believe the withdrawl of US troops would lead to a magic disintegration of support for Zarqawi’s factions. In any case, AQ can set up camps in the more remote sections of the country with ease unless there is a force strong enough to hunt them down.
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Also, as we make our intentions to withdraw clear, the Shiites are forced to deal more fairly with the Sunnis and Kurds in the emerging government.

Without the pressure the US brings to bear the Shiites would screw the Sunnis at every turn. The Sunnis would fight back.

Most importantly, the Kurds will take a hike. Then the Turks get join all the reindeer games. Gee what fun!!

But there is a case to be made for US withdrawal as the best option for both resolving the conflict and neutralizing the foreign Islamic extremists in Iraq. Indeed the continued US military presence may do more harm than good.

It is first essential to understand that there are two distinct insurgencies, first the Sunni-led insurgency, which is fighting out of a sense of Iraqi nationalism and to protect the Sunni minority’s interests in Iraq, and the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist network of Zarqawi, which is engaged in a jihad to drive Americans and other Westerners out of the Middle East.

Their interests currently overlap, but that is primarily because an American force of 138,000 troops remains inside Iraq. The Sunni insurgents see the US army as the enemy because it invaded Iraq and is now protecting a government dominated by Iraq’s Shiite majority. Zarqawi’s group has made itself somewhat useful to the Sunnis by recruiting Islamic extremists to come to Iraq and undertake suicide bombings that kill Americans and wreak havoc. If the Americans and other Western forces weren’t in Iraq, two changes would likely occur: first, the draw for radicalized Islamic youth to infiltrate into Iraq and become suicide bombers would have disappeared; second, Zarqawi’s limited usefulness to the Sunnis would soon dissipate. Indeed Sunnis have recently turned against Zarqawi’s fighters, such as in Ramadi (Wash. Post, August 13th). Also, as we make our intentions to withdraw clear, the Shiites are forced to deal more fairly with the Sunnis and Kurds in the emerging government.

Critical thinking is essential on this issue, not snap judgments, not a “we can’t cut and run” sound bite, nor an across the board comparison with Vietnam. Our withdrawal may very well resolve the seemingly intractable issues we have created in Iraq.

Because to have Iraq turn into a Sudan/Afghanistan outlaw haven WILL be a threat to the US and the world.

Unfortunately Georgie has cost the lives of thousands more young Americans, but the price must be paid. The alternative is the deaths of millions.

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“We can’t leave now, then the soldiers who died would have died for nothing” — that’s circular logic, I believe either arguing the antecedent or appeals to consequences — if that’s the case we can never leave because there’s going to be a continuous flow of dead to continue justifying the unjustifiable.

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