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	<title>Comments on: I Beg Your Pardon?</title>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/10/20/i-beg-your-pardon/#comment-8295</link>
		<author>Maurice</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say this is an interesting one. I'm looking forward to some more information on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say this is an interesting one. I&#8217;m looking forward to some more information on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Misplaced Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/10/20/i-beg-your-pardon/#comment-8294</link>
		<author>Misplaced Patriot</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, a pardon also precludes a fifth amendment claim, so the person can be forced to testify. Then, if they lie, they can be charged with perjury and they need to be pardoned again :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, a pardon also precludes a fifth amendment claim, so the person can be forced to testify. Then, if they lie, they can be charged with perjury and they need to be pardoned again :-)</p>
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		<title>By: rp</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/10/20/i-beg-your-pardon/#comment-8293</link>
		<author>rp</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though the prospect of pardons all around is very high, I do think there are distinct political differences between GW pardoning his cronies and previous examples of prezdental pardons.

Ford's pardon of Nixon and GHBush's pardon of Iran-Contra crooks were done to clear the slate of a previous admin's wrong-doing, which was far less ass-covering (at least in terms of public perception) than a sitting president getting his immediate close circle of conspiring friends and allies sprung would be. Here, GW would be pardoning those who undeniably were working under his watch.  Only Nixon's act of firing Cox was similarly self-serving, and, if I remember correctly from my childhood, the American people didn't react fondly to that approach.

I'm hoping that Fitzpatrick is putting this in his formulation, because it would be a lot harder in the court of public opinion for GW to say "domini, domini, domini, you're all free now" to a list of 15-20 indicted cronies than if it's just Scooter and Karl.

Also, depending on the charges brought, pardons will be more or less difficult for the public to swallow.  If Fitzpatrick pushes the conspiracy and outing of a CIA agent angle of the crime rather than the more easily prosecuted but not-so-troubling crimes of false statements and maybe even perjury, then the American public, especially the national security obsessed wing of the right, will spurn efforts to sweep this under the rug.

So the best case scenario in my mind would be more than 10 indictments brought, with some of them being related to treason, or at least, conspiracy. The higher up the food chain the indictments go, the fewer needed to quicken the mortar around Bush's lame-duck feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though the prospect of pardons all around is very high, I do think there are distinct political differences between GW pardoning his cronies and previous examples of prezdental pardons.</p>
<p>Ford&#8217;s pardon of Nixon and GHBush&#8217;s pardon of Iran-Contra crooks were done to clear the slate of a previous admin&#8217;s wrong-doing, which was far less ass-covering (at least in terms of public perception) than a sitting president getting his immediate close circle of conspiring friends and allies sprung would be. Here, GW would be pardoning those who undeniably were working under his watch.  Only Nixon&#8217;s act of firing Cox was similarly self-serving, and, if I remember correctly from my childhood, the American people didn&#8217;t react fondly to that approach.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that Fitzpatrick is putting this in his formulation, because it would be a lot harder in the court of public opinion for GW to say &#8220;domini, domini, domini, you&#8217;re all free now&#8221; to a list of 15-20 indicted cronies than if it&#8217;s just Scooter and Karl.</p>
<p>Also, depending on the charges brought, pardons will be more or less difficult for the public to swallow.  If Fitzpatrick pushes the conspiracy and outing of a CIA agent angle of the crime rather than the more easily prosecuted but not-so-troubling crimes of false statements and maybe even perjury, then the American public, especially the national security obsessed wing of the right, will spurn efforts to sweep this under the rug.</p>
<p>So the best case scenario in my mind would be more than 10 indictments brought, with some of them being related to treason, or at least, conspiracy. The higher up the food chain the indictments go, the fewer needed to quicken the mortar around Bush&#8217;s lame-duck feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/10/20/i-beg-your-pardon/#comment-8292</link>
		<author>Becky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it is still very controversial, I believed then and still do that Nixon's pardon was the right thing to do for the country. Similarly, the country will be much better off when the sliminess of this administration is exposed and we see some good 'ole fashioned perp walks.  Bush's impeachment and Tom Delay in jail would be icing on the cake or what I like to call torte reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is still very controversial, I believed then and still do that Nixon&#8217;s pardon was the right thing to do for the country. Similarly, the country will be much better off when the sliminess of this administration is exposed and we see some good &#8216;ole fashioned perp walks.  Bush&#8217;s impeachment and Tom Delay in jail would be icing on the cake or what I like to call torte reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Issues Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/10/20/i-beg-your-pardon/#comment-8296</link>
		<author>Issues Forum</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bush II; Days 346-350: A round-up of what I missed&lt;/strong&gt;

Being out-of-pocket and not blogging for 5 days was certainly a wierd experience! And maybe that's a little wierd that it was so wierd! So, here are some stories that it seems like I missed blogging about: RoveGate With Special...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bush II; Days 346-350: A round-up of what I missed</strong></p>
<p>Being out-of-pocket and not blogging for 5 days was certainly a wierd experience! And maybe that&#8217;s a little wierd that it was so wierd! So, here are some stories that it seems like I missed blogging about: RoveGate With Special&#8230;</p>
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