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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2005/11/11/killing-the-best-show-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-8533</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;They&#039;re showing it on MONDAYS??!! I have been checking the Sunday TV Guide religiously waiting for it to come back on after Baseball and now it turns out it have been on Mondays!! We LOVE that show and make a special point of watching it. What a bunch of completely moronic a**holes at Fox. Between them and USA network I&#039;ve had it.&lt;/i&gt;

Shows frequently get moved around between seasons.  How on earth is it Fox&#039;s fault that you couldn&#039;t be bothered to find out when one of your favorite shows is on?  I understand that the constant preemptions make things difficult, and I&#039;m not defending Fox here, but it is also up to us to figure these things out, to some extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They&#8217;re showing it on MONDAYS??!! I have been checking the Sunday TV Guide religiously waiting for it to come back on after Baseball and now it turns out it have been on Mondays!! We LOVE that show and make a special point of watching it. What a bunch of completely moronic a**holes at Fox. Between them and USA network I&#8217;ve had it.</i></p>
<p>Shows frequently get moved around between seasons.  How on earth is it Fox&#8217;s fault that you couldn&#8217;t be bothered to find out when one of your favorite shows is on?  I understand that the constant preemptions make things difficult, and I&#8217;m not defending Fox here, but it is also up to us to figure these things out, to some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was sad news for me, too, when the news of AD being reduced to 13 shows hit the internet.  Consoling myself with the first two seasons did indeed make me laugh, but only served to cement the fact that it&#039;s just so unfair to pull the plug on a show that, for severe lack of network promotion &amp; support, isn&#039;t sucking in the casual viewer.  Put it on any night and stick with it, for the love of all that is just, and it will take off.  *sigh*  But it may be too late...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was sad news for me, too, when the news of AD being reduced to 13 shows hit the internet.  Consoling myself with the first two seasons did indeed make me laugh, but only served to cement the fact that it&#8217;s just so unfair to pull the plug on a show that, for severe lack of network promotion &#038; support, isn&#8217;t sucking in the casual viewer.  Put it on any night and stick with it, for the love of all that is just, and it will take off.  *sigh*  But it may be too late&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&gt;Futurama was canceled because it was a 
&gt;spectacularly expensive show to produce. 
&gt;Family Guy is produced for chicken feed &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Proof, please.&lt;/i&gt;

The relative quality of the two shows is proof enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>>Futurama was canceled because it was a<br />
>spectacularly expensive show to produce.<br />
>Family Guy is produced for chicken feed </i></p>
<p><i>Proof, please.</i></p>
<p>The relative quality of the two shows is proof enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re showing it on MONDAYS??!!  I have been checking the Sunday TV Guide religiously waiting for it to come back on after Baseball and now it turns out it have been on Mondays!!  We LOVE that show and make a special point of watching it.  What a bunch of completely moronic a**holes at Fox.  Between them and USA network I&#039;ve had it.
I guess I&#039;ll need to buy a Tivo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re showing it on MONDAYS??!!  I have been checking the Sunday TV Guide religiously waiting for it to come back on after Baseball and now it turns out it have been on Mondays!!  We LOVE that show and make a special point of watching it.  What a bunch of completely moronic a**holes at Fox.  Between them and USA network I&#8217;ve had it.<br />
I guess I&#8217;ll need to buy a Tivo.</p>
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		<title>By: bartkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>bartkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Futurama was canceled because it was a 
&gt;spectacularly expensive show to produce. 
&gt;Family Guy is produced for chicken feed 

Proof, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Futurama was canceled because it was a<br />
>spectacularly expensive show to produce.<br />
>Family Guy is produced for chicken feed </p>
<p>Proof, please.</p>
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		<title>By: tps12</title>
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		<dc:creator>tps12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure &lt;i&gt;Wife Swap&lt;/i&gt; has an audience. It&#039;s terrible, but very hard to stop watching an episode once you&#039;ve started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure <i>Wife Swap</i> has an audience. It&#8217;s terrible, but very hard to stop watching an episode once you&#8217;ve started.</p>
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		<title>By: Aluvius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aluvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in sales at a FOX broadcast station.  I can&#039;t add much to what has already been said in this thread other than to say that these same problems drive us insane, too.  FOX will not give shows a chance.  They constantly move shows based on what seems to be pure random chance.

I&#039;d just like to add another great FOX show to the list of the prematurely canceled, &quot;Space Above and Beyond&quot;.  It was a good military sci-fi show coupled with intelligent dramatic writing.  Sort of like the new Battlestar Galactica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in sales at a FOX broadcast station.  I can&#8217;t add much to what has already been said in this thread other than to say that these same problems drive us insane, too.  FOX will not give shows a chance.  They constantly move shows based on what seems to be pure random chance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to add another great FOX show to the list of the prematurely canceled, &#8220;Space Above and Beyond&#8221;.  It was a good military sci-fi show coupled with intelligent dramatic writing.  Sort of like the new Battlestar Galactica.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the useless internet petition... 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.petitiononline.com/Arrested/petition.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Save Arrested Development&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the useless internet petition&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/Arrested/petition.html" rel="nofollow">Save Arrested Development</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this can be blamed on timeslot or network (in the sense that &quot;fewer people watch Fox, so it gets bad ratings&quot; - I think the Fox people bear much blame in other ways).

Basically, I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s wrong with the timeslot.  &lt;i&gt;Prison Break&lt;/i&gt; is apparently reasonable popular, for a Fox show (and, imo, a fairly enjoyable show, if rather absurd), and, anyway, AD&#039;s on at 8 PM so it&#039;s not like other shows are giving it crappy lead-ins - it is the lead-in.  And its competition is &quot;King of Queens&quot; on CBS, which is awful; &quot;Surface&quot; on NBC, which I assume based on my own reaction that nobody has ever heard of; &quot;Wife Swap&quot; on ABC, which also is crap, and which almost certainly gets poor ratings (besides the really big reality shows, most reality shows get awful ratings - they&#039;re just so cheap to make that the networks love to do so); &quot;Seventh Heaven&quot; on WB, which sucks; and &quot;One on One&quot; on UPN, which I&#039;ve never heard of.

This is hardly a competitive line-up - I assume &quot;King of Queens&quot; gets good ratings, but the rest shouldn&#039;t be a problem.  

What &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a problem is the constant preemption.  The biggest problem is the World Series.  I have no idea why Fox would have wanted exclusive rights to the baseball postseason, but it completely screws over any chance they might have to establish an audience for a new show before sweeps, unless they start the show in the summer (as they did for Prison Break, and, a few years ago, the OC).  Looking at Fox&#039;s line-up, almost all the shows are either ancient - Simpsons, King of the Hill, COPS, America&#039;s Most Wanted, That Seventies Show, Family Guy (sort of), Malcolm in the Middle; or new this season - Prison Break, Bones, War at Home, Reunion, American Dad, Kitchen Confidential, Stacked, something called Killer Instinct that I&#039;d never heard of before.  

There are only a few shows in their second-fifth season or so - Bernie Mac, Arrested Development, House,  the OC (which started in the summer), and that&#039;s it (well, you could count Trading Spouses, but I won&#039;t).  Basically, the issue seems to be that Fox is almost completely incapable of turning &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; of its new shows into hits.  The only show to survive from last season is &lt;i&gt;House&lt;/i&gt;. AD and the OC are the only shows from the season before that, and AD is constantly on the verge of being cancelled.  There are no shows from the season before that.  Bernie Mac is the only show from the season before that.  And there are no shows from the season before that (Malcolm in the middle was a mid-season replacement from 1999-2000).

I&#039;m not sure if the other networks are much better in this respect, but this seems like a dismally poor record.  In the same &quot;starting between fall 2001 and midseason 2005&quot; period for which Fox has a pitiful 4 surviving non-reality series (with one on the edge of cancellation), ABC has 10.  CBS and NBC are closer to Fox, with 6 and 5, respectively, but both have considerably more shows which started in 1998-2000 than Fox.  And for CBS, at least, many of the shows are one hour dramas, as compared to Fox, which has two dramas and two half hour sitcoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this can be blamed on timeslot or network (in the sense that &#8220;fewer people watch Fox, so it gets bad ratings&#8221; &#8211; I think the Fox people bear much blame in other ways).</p>
<p>Basically, I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s wrong with the timeslot.  <i>Prison Break</i> is apparently reasonable popular, for a Fox show (and, imo, a fairly enjoyable show, if rather absurd), and, anyway, AD&#8217;s on at 8 PM so it&#8217;s not like other shows are giving it crappy lead-ins &#8211; it is the lead-in.  And its competition is &#8220;King of Queens&#8221; on CBS, which is awful; &#8220;Surface&#8221; on NBC, which I assume based on my own reaction that nobody has ever heard of; &#8220;Wife Swap&#8221; on ABC, which also is crap, and which almost certainly gets poor ratings (besides the really big reality shows, most reality shows get awful ratings &#8211; they&#8217;re just so cheap to make that the networks love to do so); &#8220;Seventh Heaven&#8221; on WB, which sucks; and &#8220;One on One&#8221; on UPN, which I&#8217;ve never heard of.</p>
<p>This is hardly a competitive line-up &#8211; I assume &#8220;King of Queens&#8221; gets good ratings, but the rest shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.  </p>
<p>What <i>is</i> a problem is the constant preemption.  The biggest problem is the World Series.  I have no idea why Fox would have wanted exclusive rights to the baseball postseason, but it completely screws over any chance they might have to establish an audience for a new show before sweeps, unless they start the show in the summer (as they did for Prison Break, and, a few years ago, the OC).  Looking at Fox&#8217;s line-up, almost all the shows are either ancient &#8211; Simpsons, King of the Hill, COPS, America&#8217;s Most Wanted, That Seventies Show, Family Guy (sort of), Malcolm in the Middle; or new this season &#8211; Prison Break, Bones, War at Home, Reunion, American Dad, Kitchen Confidential, Stacked, something called Killer Instinct that I&#8217;d never heard of before.  </p>
<p>There are only a few shows in their second-fifth season or so &#8211; Bernie Mac, Arrested Development, House,  the OC (which started in the summer), and that&#8217;s it (well, you could count Trading Spouses, but I won&#8217;t).  Basically, the issue seems to be that Fox is almost completely incapable of turning <i>any</i> of its new shows into hits.  The only show to survive from last season is <i>House</i>. AD and the OC are the only shows from the season before that, and AD is constantly on the verge of being cancelled.  There are no shows from the season before that.  Bernie Mac is the only show from the season before that.  And there are no shows from the season before that (Malcolm in the middle was a mid-season replacement from 1999-2000).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the other networks are much better in this respect, but this seems like a dismally poor record.  In the same &#8220;starting between fall 2001 and midseason 2005&#8243; period for which Fox has a pitiful 4 surviving non-reality series (with one on the edge of cancellation), ABC has 10.  CBS and NBC are closer to Fox, with 6 and 5, respectively, but both have considerably more shows which started in 1998-2000 than Fox.  And for CBS, at least, many of the shows are one hour dramas, as compared to Fox, which has two dramas and two half hour sitcoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sad to have to add Arrested Development to the Firefly, Wonderfalls (which is SO good -- check it out on DVD if you haven&#039;t seen it!), Futurama (Is it coming back? -- I haven&#039;t heard that)bin of great shows FOX canceled.  At least AD got 3 seasons; Wonderfalls got 4 whole episodes.  I&#039;ve started to wonder if FOX hasn&#039;t just decided that DVD sales are more profitible than actually putting on a network schedule.  They show a couple of episodes as a preview, then in a few months you can by the DVD!  Instead of a network, they have a DVD preview showcase!

Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sad to have to add Arrested Development to the Firefly, Wonderfalls (which is SO good &#8212; check it out on DVD if you haven&#8217;t seen it!), Futurama (Is it coming back? &#8212; I haven&#8217;t heard that)bin of great shows FOX canceled.  At least AD got 3 seasons; Wonderfalls got 4 whole episodes.  I&#8217;ve started to wonder if FOX hasn&#8217;t just decided that DVD sales are more profitible than actually putting on a network schedule.  They show a couple of episodes as a preview, then in a few months you can by the DVD!  Instead of a network, they have a DVD preview showcase!</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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