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		<title>By: Mark Spittle</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/01/separated-by-a-common-language/comment-page-1/#comment-8988</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Spittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dAnimal, it&#039;s a far more complicated issue than can be spelled out in any detail here, but the links I provided paint a pretty good picture. It&#039;s not as if there is a planned, documented conspiracy to promote only the negative aspects of Black culture by white owned corporations, but rather this is a natural extension of racism by those in power. Yes, there is a financial and cultural benefit to ensure racism exists in this country, and that plays into it. There are some who ACTIVELY plan these things, but mostly there is a subconscious effort by whites to promote Blacks only in the negative sense. 

Take for example the fact that hip-hop clothing --- baggy pants that show off underwear --- is an extension of the baggy prison clothes originally intended to keep prisoners from running off.  Prisons -- which no one will accuse of being Black-run --- implemented these kinds of outfits for practical purposes, but then ALLOW cultural adoption and enhancement of them. The prisons could very well say &quot;you can&#039;t tattoo yourself, you can&#039;t wear your colors, you can&#039;t cornrow your hair, and you can&#039;t change our uniform into something that gives you a negative cultural identity.&quot;  This is the way prisons were run in the past. You wore the uniform, but could not customize it. The aim was to promote social obedience and order(we can argue that one separately.)

But the prisons DON&#039;T limit those things, because the intents of today&#039;s prison are vengeance and free labor, not rehabilitation. If Blacks adopt prison culture on the outside, all the better: it pre-disposes them to crime and readies them for prison long before they ever commit a crime. So the extension of prison culture through prison dress, they walk like they are in ankle chains, they tattoo and brand themselves, etc.  

In short though, there ARE ample Black music and cultural components that do not rely on concepts like gangsters, pimps, hoes, gangbanging and Pimp Juice, but these are not entered into the mainstream, and in many cases directly prevented from mainstream dissemination.

As for the Black producers who continue the downward spiral, they are willing participants who simply don&#039;t care about the origins of the negative impact on current Black culture, either because they are personally benefitting from it, or they are too dumb to know better. The same social suicide occurs when redneck whites vote for gun rights over labor rights. History is filled with people who actively do things against the better interests of themselves or their own people.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dAnimal, it&#8217;s a far more complicated issue than can be spelled out in any detail here, but the links I provided paint a pretty good picture. It&#8217;s not as if there is a planned, documented conspiracy to promote only the negative aspects of Black culture by white owned corporations, but rather this is a natural extension of racism by those in power. Yes, there is a financial and cultural benefit to ensure racism exists in this country, and that plays into it. There are some who ACTIVELY plan these things, but mostly there is a subconscious effort by whites to promote Blacks only in the negative sense. </p>
<p>Take for example the fact that hip-hop clothing &#8212; baggy pants that show off underwear &#8212; is an extension of the baggy prison clothes originally intended to keep prisoners from running off.  Prisons &#8212; which no one will accuse of being Black-run &#8212; implemented these kinds of outfits for practical purposes, but then ALLOW cultural adoption and enhancement of them. The prisons could very well say &#8220;you can&#8217;t tattoo yourself, you can&#8217;t wear your colors, you can&#8217;t cornrow your hair, and you can&#8217;t change our uniform into something that gives you a negative cultural identity.&#8221;  This is the way prisons were run in the past. You wore the uniform, but could not customize it. The aim was to promote social obedience and order(we can argue that one separately.)</p>
<p>But the prisons DON&#8217;T limit those things, because the intents of today&#8217;s prison are vengeance and free labor, not rehabilitation. If Blacks adopt prison culture on the outside, all the better: it pre-disposes them to crime and readies them for prison long before they ever commit a crime. So the extension of prison culture through prison dress, they walk like they are in ankle chains, they tattoo and brand themselves, etc.  </p>
<p>In short though, there ARE ample Black music and cultural components that do not rely on concepts like gangsters, pimps, hoes, gangbanging and Pimp Juice, but these are not entered into the mainstream, and in many cases directly prevented from mainstream dissemination.</p>
<p>As for the Black producers who continue the downward spiral, they are willing participants who simply don&#8217;t care about the origins of the negative impact on current Black culture, either because they are personally benefitting from it, or they are too dumb to know better. The same social suicide occurs when redneck whites vote for gun rights over labor rights. History is filled with people who actively do things against the better interests of themselves or their own people.</p>
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		<title>By: dAnimal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/01/separated-by-a-common-language/comment-page-1/#comment-8987</link>
		<dc:creator>dAnimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and now I misspelled &quot;ridicule.&quot;  I think I&#039;m still recovering from New Year&#039;s Eve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and now I misspelled &#8220;ridicule.&#8221;  I think I&#8217;m still recovering from New Year&#8217;s Eve.</p>
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		<title>By: dj gremmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj gremmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, didn&#039;t mean to imply that ALL stickers or tattoos were deserving of rididule.  I just meant the lame ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, didn&#8217;t mean to imply that ALL stickers or tattoos were deserving of rididule.  I just meant the lame ones.</p>
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		<title>By: dAnimal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/01/separated-by-a-common-language/comment-page-1/#comment-8985</link>
		<dc:creator>dAnimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, we can all agree that radio is completely owned by the man, and is total hooey pablum nowadays, whether hip-hop, country, or the worst dreck of all, modern rock music.

However, I was unaware that there was top-down micromanagement of hip-hop content imposed upon black producers and performers, and through their sheer &quot;obliviousness&quot; not recognized until it reached the ears of a target audience too foolish to discern the difference between a song they like, and an imposed sham culture.  Are you saying that somewhere Viacom has a plan laid out to wreck black culture, and that modern hip-hop artists are their unwitting pawns?  And if so, what does that paranoia have to do with some SUV&#039;s &quot;pimp juice&quot; sticker?

I think any goofball intent on putting a sticker on his car (or a tattoo on his body) should be called out for his ridiculousness.  It wouldn&#039;t make Greg an oblivious white guy to do this.  And yeah, in the 80&#039;s Greg probably &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be doing a post about the homo-obliviousness of &quot;hell bent for leather.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, we can all agree that radio is completely owned by the man, and is total hooey pablum nowadays, whether hip-hop, country, or the worst dreck of all, modern rock music.</p>
<p>However, I was unaware that there was top-down micromanagement of hip-hop content imposed upon black producers and performers, and through their sheer &#8220;obliviousness&#8221; not recognized until it reached the ears of a target audience too foolish to discern the difference between a song they like, and an imposed sham culture.  Are you saying that somewhere Viacom has a plan laid out to wreck black culture, and that modern hip-hop artists are their unwitting pawns?  And if so, what does that paranoia have to do with some SUV&#8217;s &#8220;pimp juice&#8221; sticker?</p>
<p>I think any goofball intent on putting a sticker on his car (or a tattoo on his body) should be called out for his ridiculousness.  It wouldn&#8217;t make Greg an oblivious white guy to do this.  And yeah, in the 80&#8242;s Greg probably <i>would</i> be doing a post about the homo-obliviousness of &#8220;hell bent for leather.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kamachanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamachanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this country the brains between their legs crowd is allowed to drive, and vote.  They&#039;re probably the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this country the brains between their legs crowd is allowed to drive, and vote.  They&#8217;re probably the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/01/separated-by-a-common-language/comment-page-1/#comment-8983</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recieved a drink for New Year.  It came in a bottle.  It&#039;s name?  Sum Poosie.  On the back, a full-color picture of a stripper named Kara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recieved a drink for New Year.  It came in a bottle.  It&#8217;s name?  Sum Poosie.  On the back, a full-color picture of a stripper named Kara.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Spittle</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/01/separated-by-a-common-language/comment-page-1/#comment-8982</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Spittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, but we can dispense with Bill Cosby&#039;s frequent rants on the subject and go to better sources:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.craccum.com/blacklash.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_5_21/ai_n6146619&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_how_hip_hop.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Three&lt;/a&gt;

Some other facts to compare with :

Not a single major record company is owned by an African American.

The overwhelming majority of record label stock holders are white.

The overwhelming number of radio station owners are white.

MTV and BET- the predominant media outlets for Black culture - are owned by Viacom. Until yesterday - literally - Viacom did not have a single Black person on its Board. (Charles Phillips took a seat on January 1.)

Finally, let me add this. A literal interpretation of a pop culture phrase like &quot;Pimp Juice&quot; is silly. 

In the seventies people put &quot;BOSS&quot; on their cars. During the heavy metal days, cars said HELL BENT FOR LEATHER or BALLS TO THE WALL. Any attempt to do a literal dissection of those phrases would result in a similar bout head-scratching.

If your other reader is right, and you are doing comedy schtick, well then I apologize for not getting it.  I don&#039;t see this blog as a satire site, and I would hope I (of all people) would recognize one when I came across it. Maybe you should do what I do, and throw in a poop joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but we can dispense with Bill Cosby&#8217;s frequent rants on the subject and go to better sources:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.craccum.com/blacklash.htm" rel="nofollow">One</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_5_21/ai_n6146619" rel="nofollow">Two</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_how_hip_hop.html" rel="nofollow">Three</a></p>
<p>Some other facts to compare with :</p>
<p>Not a single major record company is owned by an African American.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of record label stock holders are white.</p>
<p>The overwhelming number of radio station owners are white.</p>
<p>MTV and BET- the predominant media outlets for Black culture &#8211; are owned by Viacom. Until yesterday &#8211; literally &#8211; Viacom did not have a single Black person on its Board. (Charles Phillips took a seat on January 1.)</p>
<p>Finally, let me add this. A literal interpretation of a pop culture phrase like &#8220;Pimp Juice&#8221; is silly. </p>
<p>In the seventies people put &#8220;BOSS&#8221; on their cars. During the heavy metal days, cars said HELL BENT FOR LEATHER or BALLS TO THE WALL. Any attempt to do a literal dissection of those phrases would result in a similar bout head-scratching.</p>
<p>If your other reader is right, and you are doing comedy schtick, well then I apologize for not getting it.  I don&#8217;t see this blog as a satire site, and I would hope I (of all people) would recognize one when I came across it. Maybe you should do what I do, and throw in a poop joke.</p>
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		<title>By: sharlene c</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharlene c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best bumper stickers of &#039;05:
&quot;honk if you think i&#039;m jesus&quot;
and 
&quot;republicans, making enemies faster than we can kill &#039;em&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best bumper stickers of &#8217;05:<br />
&#8220;honk if you think i&#8217;m jesus&#8221;<br />
and<br />
&#8220;republicans, making enemies faster than we can kill &#8216;em&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self-denigrating elements of hip-hop &lt;i&gt;created&lt;/i&gt; by white people and &lt;i&gt;imposed&lt;/i&gt; on black people? I didn&#039;t write &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; post because I&#039;d never heard it put that way before. Where can I read more about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-denigrating elements of hip-hop <i>created</i> by white people and <i>imposed</i> on black people? I didn&#8217;t write <i>that</i> post because I&#8217;d never heard it put that way before. Where can I read more about that?</p>
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		<title>By: briantologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>briantologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, who died and made you Dean of Students, Mr. Spittle? Does Greg have detention now too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, who died and made you Dean of Students, Mr. Spittle? Does Greg have detention now too?</p>
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