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		<title>By: dAnimal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9016</link>
		<dc:creator>dAnimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dood, no way were the Monkees in the same vein as Herman&#039;s Hermits.  The latter were a real working band that tirelessly (from what Peter Noone says) played the same rough club circuit as the Dakotas, the Pacemakers, and all the other Liverpudlian bands to get big in the Beatles&#039; wake.  The Monkees were four guys put together by Don Kirshner, dressed J.C. Penney&#039;s outfits, and made to sing over music written by Brill Building ringers for a TV show.  True, the Monkees had two VERY talented songwriters in Mike and Peter, and evolved to become something of a &quot;real&quot; band later with songs that far surpass the Hermits in beauty, wit, and experimentation.  But in the beginning, they were basically the Banana Splits with pretty faces, working for the EXACT same people that would soon bring us the Archies.  If they weren&#039;t bubblegum, they were proto-bubblegum for sure.  But I love love love my gum, so don&#039;t think I&#039;m trying to cast shame on the Monkees&#039; awesomeness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dood, no way were the Monkees in the same vein as Herman&#8217;s Hermits.  The latter were a real working band that tirelessly (from what Peter Noone says) played the same rough club circuit as the Dakotas, the Pacemakers, and all the other Liverpudlian bands to get big in the Beatles&#8217; wake.  The Monkees were four guys put together by Don Kirshner, dressed J.C. Penney&#8217;s outfits, and made to sing over music written by Brill Building ringers for a TV show.  True, the Monkees had two VERY talented songwriters in Mike and Peter, and evolved to become something of a &#8220;real&#8221; band later with songs that far surpass the Hermits in beauty, wit, and experimentation.  But in the beginning, they were basically the Banana Splits with pretty faces, working for the EXACT same people that would soon bring us the Archies.  If they weren&#8217;t bubblegum, they were proto-bubblegum for sure.  But I love love love my gum, so don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m trying to cast shame on the Monkees&#8217; awesomeness.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9015</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the Democrats to regain momentum, they&#039;re going to have to jettison all the cultural crap like abortion that only turn off working-class voters between the coasts, in states where the electoral vote is growing, and instead focus on economics and the rising gap between rich and poor. Use political allegories, such as how weakened federal mine regulation may have led to the Sago tragedy.

Perception is reality, and right now Dems are perceived as slaves to the cultural elite from Harvard, Hollywood and Manhattan. The party needs to go in a different, more egalitarian direction -- even if it means nominating a candidate in 2008 who &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; Ivy-educated (shudder!). But do the party honchos have the &lt;i&gt;cojones&lt;/i&gt; to try it, or are they worried it will cost them campaign contributions from the techno-elite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Democrats to regain momentum, they&#8217;re going to have to jettison all the cultural crap like abortion that only turn off working-class voters between the coasts, in states where the electoral vote is growing, and instead focus on economics and the rising gap between rich and poor. Use political allegories, such as how weakened federal mine regulation may have led to the Sago tragedy.</p>
<p>Perception is reality, and right now Dems are perceived as slaves to the cultural elite from Harvard, Hollywood and Manhattan. The party needs to go in a different, more egalitarian direction &#8212; even if it means nominating a candidate in 2008 who <i>isn&#8217;t</i> Ivy-educated (shudder!). But do the party honchos have the <i>cojones</i> to try it, or are they worried it will cost them campaign contributions from the techno-elite?</p>
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		<title>By: Unstable Isotope</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9014</link>
		<dc:creator>Unstable Isotope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m going to comment using my experience as a scientist in the corporate world.  It&#039;s all very nice to show to other scientists all your hard work, your hypotheses and how you tested them, your conclusions with all their caveats.  Management isn&#039;t interested in that.  All they want is yes or no.  It&#039;s really all about marketing.  Yes, it&#039;s silly to have to say in &quot;ten words or less&quot; what Democrats stand for, but it is absolutely necessary.  Most people aren&#039;t going to read policy papers, read blogs or watch the Sunday talkers.  They need a short way to get the message.  This is why people continue to believe that Republicans believe in small government, even if it&#039;s obvious they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m going to comment using my experience as a scientist in the corporate world.  It&#8217;s all very nice to show to other scientists all your hard work, your hypotheses and how you tested them, your conclusions with all their caveats.  Management isn&#8217;t interested in that.  All they want is yes or no.  It&#8217;s really all about marketing.  Yes, it&#8217;s silly to have to say in &#8220;ten words or less&#8221; what Democrats stand for, but it is absolutely necessary.  Most people aren&#8217;t going to read policy papers, read blogs or watch the Sunday talkers.  They need a short way to get the message.  This is why people continue to believe that Republicans believe in small government, even if it&#8217;s obvious they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross A Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9013</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross A Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah?!?!? &lt;i&gt;OH YEAH&lt;/i&gt;?

A) My vocab is strong. As steel, but with ice cold blood running through its veins.

B) I forgot to mention that the shark jumping is actually an extended mid-air pause. The Simpsons began the jump during Who Shot Mr Burns. The Jump was completed with the Spinoff Showcase. Just thought I&#039;d resurrect that old chestnut for you.

C) You wound me sir. But then, your utter wrongness about the Simpsons has caused you to lash out, ahem, blindly. I&#039;ll choke back my tears of sadness, and I&#039;ll be back.

D) Did I say &quot;blindingly stupid&quot;? I meant &quot;Entirely evil, subsisting on the souls of the damned&quot;, and also, &quot;pederastic&quot;. 

E) But seriously, The Bible Stories episode, the global warming episode, the trip to England, the carney episode, the episode where milhouses&#039; parents reunited, the episode with Tony Hawk where bart gets emancipated. And end scene.

F) You have me at &quot;haven&#039;t written anything.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah?!?!? <i>OH YEAH</i>?</p>
<p>A) My vocab is strong. As steel, but with ice cold blood running through its veins.</p>
<p>B) I forgot to mention that the shark jumping is actually an extended mid-air pause. The Simpsons began the jump during Who Shot Mr Burns. The Jump was completed with the Spinoff Showcase. Just thought I&#8217;d resurrect that old chestnut for you.</p>
<p>C) You wound me sir. But then, your utter wrongness about the Simpsons has caused you to lash out, ahem, blindly. I&#8217;ll choke back my tears of sadness, and I&#8217;ll be back.</p>
<p>D) Did I say &#8220;blindingly stupid&#8221;? I meant &#8220;Entirely evil, subsisting on the souls of the damned&#8221;, and also, &#8220;pederastic&#8221;. </p>
<p>E) But seriously, The Bible Stories episode, the global warming episode, the trip to England, the carney episode, the episode where milhouses&#8217; parents reunited, the episode with Tony Hawk where bart gets emancipated. And end scene.</p>
<p>F) You have me at &#8220;haven&#8217;t written anything.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9012</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Even if you are blindingly stupid about the Simpsons&lt;/blockquote&gt;Blindingly stupid? I was wondering why you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisspaceforrent.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;haven&#039;t written anything &lt;/a&gt;in almost two months and now we have the answer. Because you were saving all of your energies for the most biting and witty insult in the history of the English language. Bravo, my friend. I stand humbled in the presence of your superior vocabulary. 

Even a &quot;bad&quot; episode of the Simpsons is still funny and watchable. With the exception of the occasionally preachy Lisa episodes, I&#039;d be hard pressed to use the word &quot;sucked&quot; to describe &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; episode of the Simpsons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Even if you are blindingly stupid about the Simpsons</p></blockquote>
<p>Blindingly stupid? I was wondering why you <a href="http://www.thisspaceforrent.org" rel="nofollow">haven&#8217;t written anything </a>in almost two months and now we have the answer. Because you were saving all of your energies for the most biting and witty insult in the history of the English language. Bravo, my friend. I stand humbled in the presence of your superior vocabulary. </p>
<p>Even a &#8220;bad&#8221; episode of the Simpsons is still funny and watchable. With the exception of the occasionally preachy Lisa episodes, I&#8217;d be hard pressed to use the word &#8220;sucked&#8221; to describe <i>any</i> episode of the Simpsons.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross A Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/01/04/defining-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-9011</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross A Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisV82&#039;s season 10 is a good guess. In my humble opinion, it&#039;s probably the first time the Simpsons sucked as consistently as it once was wonderful, something the show has done ever since, but to my mind Season 7 is the shark jumping moment. 

In fact, I think I can point out the exact moment - The Simpson&#039;s Spinoff Showcase episode. It&#039;s one of the funniest of all simpson&#039;s episodes, but it ended the last season containing consistently funny episodes, and preceded the first season when, rather than the biting satire they previously exhibited, they instead spent more time either putting the simpsons in wacky situations, or just jiggering about with the established cannon for lack of better ideas.

(See Mrs Crabapple and Principle Skinner romance, Apu marrying, etc for more info).

You could even argue that everything since that episode has literally been a fullfillment of what they &quot;promised&quot; in that episode, only without ironic, knowing intent. (And sadly, without ever revisiting Chief Wiggam, P.I.)Certainly, the next three seasons occasionally had a good episode or two, but the show has been consistently terrible during the entire 2000s. Even the treehouse of horror episodes suck now. 

Of course, word up, way up, to everything else you said. Even if you are blindingly stupid about the Simpsons&lt;b&gt;*&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;*&lt;/b&gt;BURN! How ya like me now, G?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisV82&#8242;s season 10 is a good guess. In my humble opinion, it&#8217;s probably the first time the Simpsons sucked as consistently as it once was wonderful, something the show has done ever since, but to my mind Season 7 is the shark jumping moment. </p>
<p>In fact, I think I can point out the exact moment &#8211; The Simpson&#8217;s Spinoff Showcase episode. It&#8217;s one of the funniest of all simpson&#8217;s episodes, but it ended the last season containing consistently funny episodes, and preceded the first season when, rather than the biting satire they previously exhibited, they instead spent more time either putting the simpsons in wacky situations, or just jiggering about with the established cannon for lack of better ideas.</p>
<p>(See Mrs Crabapple and Principle Skinner romance, Apu marrying, etc for more info).</p>
<p>You could even argue that everything since that episode has literally been a fullfillment of what they &#8220;promised&#8221; in that episode, only without ironic, knowing intent. (And sadly, without ever revisiting Chief Wiggam, P.I.)Certainly, the next three seasons occasionally had a good episode or two, but the show has been consistently terrible during the entire 2000s. Even the treehouse of horror episodes suck now. </p>
<p>Of course, word up, way up, to everything else you said. Even if you are blindingly stupid about the Simpsons<b>*</b></p>
<p><i><b>*</b>BURN! How ya like me now, G?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing that I&#039;ve noticed with this whole &quot;Democrats don&#039;t stand for anything&quot; nonsense, and it&#039;s correlary &quot;Democrats don&#039;t have a plan,&quot; is that it&#039;s really not true.  The Democrats do NOT have a problem defining themselves and defining goals.  In the last election, I saw John Edwards make a speech where he had a slogan &quot;Help/Hope is on the way&quot; and laid out details for health care, economic plans, the alleviation of poverty, etc. and referred listeners to a web site with more details.  Immediately afterwords the talking heads said &quot;Yeah, but, he didn&#039;t really lay out a plan.&quot;  When he JUST HAD!

It&#039;s a standard way of talking about Democrats - If a guy makes a great, visionary speech - Like Barak Obama, then &quot;he doesn&#039;t have a plan&quot;.  If a guy lays out a plan &quot;he doesn&#039;t have a vision&quot; or, still, remarkably &quot;doesn&#039;t have a plan.&quot;

Just like any Democrat is &quot;way out of the mainstream liberal&quot; even when they are WAAY too middle-of-the-road already.

Also, when a Republican takes a stand on something, he&#039;s &quot;standing on principle&quot;, but when a Democrat does, he&#039;s &quot;positioning himself&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing that I&#8217;ve noticed with this whole &#8220;Democrats don&#8217;t stand for anything&#8221; nonsense, and it&#8217;s correlary &#8220;Democrats don&#8217;t have a plan,&#8221; is that it&#8217;s really not true.  The Democrats do NOT have a problem defining themselves and defining goals.  In the last election, I saw John Edwards make a speech where he had a slogan &#8220;Help/Hope is on the way&#8221; and laid out details for health care, economic plans, the alleviation of poverty, etc. and referred listeners to a web site with more details.  Immediately afterwords the talking heads said &#8220;Yeah, but, he didn&#8217;t really lay out a plan.&#8221;  When he JUST HAD!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a standard way of talking about Democrats &#8211; If a guy makes a great, visionary speech &#8211; Like Barak Obama, then &#8220;he doesn&#8217;t have a plan&#8221;.  If a guy lays out a plan &#8220;he doesn&#8217;t have a vision&#8221; or, still, remarkably &#8220;doesn&#8217;t have a plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just like any Democrat is &#8220;way out of the mainstream liberal&#8221; even when they are WAAY too middle-of-the-road already.</p>
<p>Also, when a Republican takes a stand on something, he&#8217;s &#8220;standing on principle&#8221;, but when a Democrat does, he&#8217;s &#8220;positioning himself&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Munich&quot; is the best-ended Spielberg film in nearly a decade.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It coulda been &quot;War of the Worlds&quot; if he&#039;d taken my idea and ended the movie with a dying E.T. falling out of the tripod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Munich&#8221; is the best-ended Spielberg film in nearly a decade.</p></blockquote>
<p>It coulda been &#8220;War of the Worlds&#8221; if he&#8217;d taken my idea and ended the movie with a dying E.T. falling out of the tripod.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Munich&quot; is the best-ended Spielberg film in nearly a decade.</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisV82</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisV82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Simpsons never jumped the shark? You did watch season ten, right?</description>
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