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		<title>By: bdsm fem dom</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9870</link>
		<dc:creator>bdsm fem dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am happy mostly - though terribly sick at times - the medicine is not a perfect fix - i think some weed would help but caant find any - Kant find any...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am happy mostly &#8211; though terribly sick at times &#8211; the medicine is not a perfect fix &#8211; i think some weed would help but caant find any &#8211; Kant find any&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Markum</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Markum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 03:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe it, my co-worker just bought a car for $57775.  Isn&#039;t that crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe it, my co-worker just bought a car for $57775.  Isn&#8217;t that crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Kamachanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9868</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamachanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hieronymus Braintree, No one wants to do a colonoscopy on a Neo-Con.  Probably find everything from Bush&#039;s real military records to the Lindburg baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hieronymus Braintree, No one wants to do a colonoscopy on a Neo-Con.  Probably find everything from Bush&#8217;s real military records to the Lindburg baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Hieronymus Braintree</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9867</link>
		<dc:creator>Hieronymus Braintree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we can always tyring shoving as hard as we can and meet each other half way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we can always tyring shoving as hard as we can and meet each other half way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamachanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9866</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamachanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m morally superior for not shoving my irrational beliefs down other people&#039;s throats.  Not that that&#039;s where I&#039;d shove them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m morally superior for not shoving my irrational beliefs down other people&#8217;s throats.  Not that that&#8217;s where I&#8217;d shove them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hieronymus Braintree</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9865</link>
		<dc:creator>Hieronymus Braintree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Nuts to you, Sweetheart. That&#039;s the thing about dealing with religious people and their apologists: They always resort to trying to bully people with their emotions. 

You say schaedenfruede is a sickness. Uh, huh. And I should believe that why? Because some sanctimonious boob who has his panties in a knot says so? 

And, incidentally, for me it isn&#039;t even schadenfruede. It&#039;s the relief at seeing a pernicious piece of horseshit exploded. Everybody has pain, Charlie. It&#039;s just that some of us don&#039;t use it as an excuse to shove our irrational beliefs down other people&#039;s throats while telling everyone that we&#039;re morally superior for doing it. Unfortunately, you can&#039;t say that for Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Nuts to you, Sweetheart. That&#8217;s the thing about dealing with religious people and their apologists: They always resort to trying to bully people with their emotions. </p>
<p>You say schaedenfruede is a sickness. Uh, huh. And I should believe that why? Because some sanctimonious boob who has his panties in a knot says so? </p>
<p>And, incidentally, for me it isn&#8217;t even schadenfruede. It&#8217;s the relief at seeing a pernicious piece of horseshit exploded. Everybody has pain, Charlie. It&#8217;s just that some of us don&#8217;t use it as an excuse to shove our irrational beliefs down other people&#8217;s throats while telling everyone that we&#8217;re morally superior for doing it. Unfortunately, you can&#8217;t say that for Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: David K. M. Klaus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9864</link>
		<dc:creator>David K. M. Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed a shame that you think that families so desperate for the survival of a loved one that they will try even prayer are a source of hilarity.
 

&lt;i&gt;Schadenfreude&lt;/i&gt; is ill-becoming, no matter who is indulging in it.  It itself is a sickness.
 

Okay, prayer doesn&#039;t work.  Is the crying child praying for the survival of her father &lt;i&gt;funny&lt;/i&gt;?  Is the desperate wife with four children to feed praying for the survival of her husband &lt;i&gt;funny&lt;/i&gt;?
 

I&#039;m an agnostic.  That doesn&#039;t make me insensitive to human pain.  If you are, perhaps you need an empathy transplant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed a shame that you think that families so desperate for the survival of a loved one that they will try even prayer are a source of hilarity.</p>
<p><i>Schadenfreude</i> is ill-becoming, no matter who is indulging in it.  It itself is a sickness.</p>
<p>Okay, prayer doesn&#8217;t work.  Is the crying child praying for the survival of her father <i>funny</i>?  Is the desperate wife with four children to feed praying for the survival of her husband <i>funny</i>?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an agnostic.  That doesn&#8217;t make me insensitive to human pain.  If you are, perhaps you need an empathy transplant.</p>
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		<title>By: Hieronymus Braintree</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9863</link>
		<dc:creator>Hieronymus Braintree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious people, by insisting that we respect their stupid delusions (i.e., sex is evil, Republicans are more honest than Democrats, we don&#039;t have to take care of the enrivonment because the Rapture&#039;s gonna happen any day now and that&#039;s why I have a variable mortgage) do tons of damage which people are afraid to point out because they don&#039;t want to offend religious people. In other words, religious people bully us with their feelings in a way that puts a huge crimp on intelligent, productive conversation. (Of course you could say the same thing for the identity politics crowd, but that&#039;s another story.) 

I mean Geez, Dan.  if you can&#039;t laugh at a destructive and apparantly intractable delusion that harms us all, what&#039;s the use of going on? No use being a sanctimonious speck of drool. 

And now it&#039;s time for a round of Mr. Answer Guy:

&quot;What really puzzles me is the mathematics: If 59 percent of the patients who knew about the prayers suffered complications vs. 51/52 percent in the other categories, how does that translate into a 14 percent higher rate of complication?&quot;

59% - 8% = 51%  8 divided by 51 = 15.69%
59% - 7% = 52%, 7 divided by 52 = 13.46%

14%  is a decent midpoint description for 13.46% - 15.69%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious people, by insisting that we respect their stupid delusions (i.e., sex is evil, Republicans are more honest than Democrats, we don&#8217;t have to take care of the enrivonment because the Rapture&#8217;s gonna happen any day now and that&#8217;s why I have a variable mortgage) do tons of damage which people are afraid to point out because they don&#8217;t want to offend religious people. In other words, religious people bully us with their feelings in a way that puts a huge crimp on intelligent, productive conversation. (Of course you could say the same thing for the identity politics crowd, but that&#8217;s another story.) </p>
<p>I mean Geez, Dan.  if you can&#8217;t laugh at a destructive and apparantly intractable delusion that harms us all, what&#8217;s the use of going on? No use being a sanctimonious speck of drool. </p>
<p>And now it&#8217;s time for a round of Mr. Answer Guy:</p>
<p>&#8220;What really puzzles me is the mathematics: If 59 percent of the patients who knew about the prayers suffered complications vs. 51/52 percent in the other categories, how does that translate into a 14 percent higher rate of complication?&#8221;</p>
<p>59% &#8211; 8% = 51%  8 divided by 51 = 15.69%<br />
59% &#8211; 7% = 52%, 7 divided by 52 = 13.46%</p>
<p>14%  is a decent midpoint description for 13.46% &#8211; 15.69%</p>
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		<title>By: David Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9862</link>
		<dc:creator>David Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Dan.  I am very opposed to this attitude on the Left that science is absolute truth and anyone who &quot;believes&quot; in anything outside of that is a redneck moron from the &quot;Bronze Age.&quot;

Oh you hip atheists really have it all figured out, and your air of superiority is sooooo sexy.

Science is a religion like any other. Read some quantum physics and quit being so dismissive.  If the left is supposed to be more &quot;open-minded,&quot; I&#039;m not seeing that here.  A truly open mind doesn&#039;t laugh at anything that fails to fit his/her limited view of things.

By the way, I&#039;m not defending the people who did the study...I&#039;m just attacking the attitude that is disappointingly common on sites such as this.  

Can we EVOLVE our minds beyond this left/right nonsense?  I think it&#039;s critical that we do if humanity is to survive even another decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dan.  I am very opposed to this attitude on the Left that science is absolute truth and anyone who &#8220;believes&#8221; in anything outside of that is a redneck moron from the &#8220;Bronze Age.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh you hip atheists really have it all figured out, and your air of superiority is sooooo sexy.</p>
<p>Science is a religion like any other. Read some quantum physics and quit being so dismissive.  If the left is supposed to be more &#8220;open-minded,&#8221; I&#8217;m not seeing that here.  A truly open mind doesn&#8217;t laugh at anything that fails to fit his/her limited view of things.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m not defending the people who did the study&#8230;I&#8217;m just attacking the attitude that is disappointingly common on sites such as this.  </p>
<p>Can we EVOLVE our minds beyond this left/right nonsense?  I think it&#8217;s critical that we do if humanity is to survive even another decade.</p>
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		<title>By: M ike Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/comment-page-1/#comment-9861</link>
		<dc:creator>M ike Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a Man know GOD.</description>
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