Comments on: Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:09:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: bdsm fem dom http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9870 bdsm fem dom Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9870 i am happy mostly - though terribly sick at times - the medicine is not a perfect fix - i think some weed would help but caant find any - Kant find any... i am happy mostly - though terribly sick at times - the medicine is not a perfect fix - i think some weed would help but caant find any - Kant find any…

]]> By: Betsy Markum http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9869 Betsy Markum Tue, 09 May 2006 03:49:09 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9869 I can't believe it, my co-worker just bought a car for $57775. Isn't that crazy! I can’t believe it, my co-worker just bought a car for $57775. Isn’t that crazy!

]]> By: Kamachanda http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9868 Kamachanda Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:48:52 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9868 Hieronymus Braintree, No one wants to do a colonoscopy on a Neo-Con. Probably find everything from Bush's real military records to the Lindburg baby. Hieronymus Braintree, No one wants to do a colonoscopy on a Neo-Con. Probably find everything from Bush’s real military records to the Lindburg baby.

]]> By: Hieronymus Braintree http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9867 Hieronymus Braintree Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:02:55 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9867 Well, we can always tyring shoving as hard as we can and meet each other half way. Well, we can always tyring shoving as hard as we can and meet each other half way.

]]> By: Kamachanda http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9866 Kamachanda Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:45:09 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9866 I'm morally superior for not shoving my irrational beliefs down other people's throats. Not that that's where I'd shove them.... I’m morally superior for not shoving my irrational beliefs down other people’s throats. Not that that’s where I’d shove them….

]]> By: Hieronymus Braintree http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9865 Hieronymus Braintree Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:33:00 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9865 David, Nuts to you, Sweetheart. That's the thing about dealing with religious people and their apologists: They always resort to trying to bully people with their emotions. You say schaedenfruede is a sickness. Uh, huh. And I should believe that why? Because some sanctimonious boob who has his panties in a knot says so? And, incidentally, for me it isn't even schadenfruede. It's the relief at seeing a pernicious piece of horseshit exploded. Everybody has pain, Charlie. It's just that some of us don't use it as an excuse to shove our irrational beliefs down other people's throats while telling everyone that we're morally superior for doing it. Unfortunately, you can't say that for Christians. David,

Nuts to you, Sweetheart. That’s the thing about dealing with religious people and their apologists: They always resort to trying to bully people with their emotions.

You say schaedenfruede is a sickness. Uh, huh. And I should believe that why? Because some sanctimonious boob who has his panties in a knot says so?

And, incidentally, for me it isn’t even schadenfruede. It’s the relief at seeing a pernicious piece of horseshit exploded. Everybody has pain, Charlie. It’s just that some of us don’t use it as an excuse to shove our irrational beliefs down other people’s throats while telling everyone that we’re morally superior for doing it. Unfortunately, you can’t say that for Christians.

]]> By: David K. M. Klaus http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9864 David K. M. Klaus Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:18:17 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9864 It is indeed a shame that you think that families so desperate for the survival of a loved one that they will try even prayer are a source of hilarity. <i>Schadenfreude</i> is ill-becoming, no matter who is indulging in it. It itself is a sickness. Okay, prayer doesn't work. Is the crying child praying for the survival of her father <i>funny</i>? Is the desperate wife with four children to feed praying for the survival of her husband <i>funny</i>? I'm an agnostic. That doesn't make me insensitive to human pain. If you are, perhaps you need an empathy transplant. It is indeed a shame that you think that families so desperate for the survival of a loved one that they will try even prayer are a source of hilarity.

Schadenfreude is ill-becoming, no matter who is indulging in it. It itself is a sickness.

Okay, prayer doesn’t work. Is the crying child praying for the survival of her father funny? Is the desperate wife with four children to feed praying for the survival of her husband funny?

I’m an agnostic. That doesn’t make me insensitive to human pain. If you are, perhaps you need an empathy transplant.

]]> By: Hieronymus Braintree http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9863 Hieronymus Braintree Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:11:14 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9863 Religious people, by insisting that we respect their stupid delusions (i.e., sex is evil, Republicans are more honest than Democrats, we don't have to take care of the enrivonment because the Rapture's gonna happen any day now and that's why I have a variable mortgage) do tons of damage which people are afraid to point out because they don't want to offend religious people. In other words, religious people bully us with their feelings in a way that puts a huge crimp on intelligent, productive conversation. (Of course you could say the same thing for the identity politics crowd, but that's another story.) I mean Geez, Dan. if you can't laugh at a destructive and apparantly intractable delusion that harms us all, what's the use of going on? No use being a sanctimonious speck of drool. And now it's time for a round of Mr. Answer Guy: "What really puzzles me is the mathematics: If 59 percent of the patients who knew about the prayers suffered complications vs. 51/52 percent in the other categories, how does that translate into a 14 percent higher rate of complication?" 59% - 8% = 51% 8 divided by 51 = 15.69% 59% - 7% = 52%, 7 divided by 52 = 13.46% 14% is a decent midpoint description for 13.46% - 15.69% Religious people, by insisting that we respect their stupid delusions (i.e., sex is evil, Republicans are more honest than Democrats, we don’t have to take care of the enrivonment because the Rapture’s gonna happen any day now and that’s why I have a variable mortgage) do tons of damage which people are afraid to point out because they don’t want to offend religious people. In other words, religious people bully us with their feelings in a way that puts a huge crimp on intelligent, productive conversation. (Of course you could say the same thing for the identity politics crowd, but that’s another story.)

I mean Geez, Dan. if you can’t laugh at a destructive and apparantly intractable delusion that harms us all, what’s the use of going on? No use being a sanctimonious speck of drool.

And now it’s time for a round of Mr. Answer Guy:

“What really puzzles me is the mathematics: If 59 percent of the patients who knew about the prayers suffered complications vs. 51/52 percent in the other categories, how does that translate into a 14 percent higher rate of complication?”

59% - 8% = 51% 8 divided by 51 = 15.69%
59% - 7% = 52%, 7 divided by 52 = 13.46%

14% is a decent midpoint description for 13.46% - 15.69%

]]> By: David Parsons http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9862 David Parsons Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:25:05 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9862 I have to agree with Dan. I am very opposed to this attitude on the Left that science is absolute truth and anyone who "believes" in anything outside of that is a redneck moron from the "Bronze Age." Oh you hip atheists really have it all figured out, and your air of superiority is sooooo sexy. Science is a religion like any other. Read some quantum physics and quit being so dismissive. If the left is supposed to be more "open-minded," I'm not seeing that here. A truly open mind doesn't laugh at anything that fails to fit his/her limited view of things. By the way, I'm not defending the people who did the study...I'm just attacking the attitude that is disappointingly common on sites such as this. Can we EVOLVE our minds beyond this left/right nonsense? I think it's critical that we do if humanity is to survive even another decade. I have to agree with Dan. I am very opposed to this attitude on the Left that science is absolute truth and anyone who “believes” in anything outside of that is a redneck moron from the “Bronze Age.”

Oh you hip atheists really have it all figured out, and your air of superiority is sooooo sexy.

Science is a religion like any other. Read some quantum physics and quit being so dismissive. If the left is supposed to be more “open-minded,” I’m not seeing that here. A truly open mind doesn’t laugh at anything that fails to fit his/her limited view of things.

By the way, I’m not defending the people who did the study…I’m just attacking the attitude that is disappointingly common on sites such as this.

Can we EVOLVE our minds beyond this left/right nonsense? I think it’s critical that we do if humanity is to survive even another decade.

]]> By: M ike Meyer http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9861 M ike Meyer Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:28:14 +0000 http://www.thetalentshow.org/2006/03/31/post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc/#comment-9861 How can a Man know GOD. How can a Man know GOD.

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