Comments on: Which America Do You Live In?

By: dAnimal

dAnimal — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:45:03 +0000

Jason, I think you’re missing the point Greg is making. He never said to let criminals evade the law–rather, he’s pointing out how cruel it is to arrest the poor and non-white but leave the companies who hire illegals, and who are EQUALLY if not more complicit, alone. Why are no CEO’s forced into jails, while their babies are quickly given to foster parents? Why are no club-going college kids with fake ID’s being hunted down in mass raids? This is the inequality he speaks of.

By: Nick J.

Nick J. — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:48:47 +0000

Think of the children, huh? Sounds like something their law-breaking parents should have done before committing a series of crimes.

Reading this site frequently makes me feel like the only democrat with a sense of personal responsibility for my own actions.

You’re about as much of a “democrat” as Orson Scott Card. Pathetic.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:50:06 +0000

Jason, do you have any idea of the sort of illegal labor we’re talking about here, or is your outrage the product of the same unexamined, uninformed worldview that leads you to call yourself “a moderate to liberal democrat”?

Kindly allow me to break it down for you: These people are doing the sort of jobs that people like you would never dream of doing even if you’d been unemployed for years, at wages that are worse that what you could get for running a paper route, and no benefits whatsoever. That’s why employers rely on undocumented workers, even though doing so could land them hefty fines or even jail.

Tell you what. Figure out how much your food bills would go up if all workers in the U.S. were “legal”, including being paid a minimum wage and having the same rights as teenage fast food workers. Take the difference (it will be considerable) and donate it to a pro-labor-reform candidate or candidates of your choice.

Alternatively, feel free to put a cork in it.

By: Cris

Cris — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:32:42 +0000

What’s funny, Jason, is that’s exactly the question Greg is asking.

WHEN!?!?! When are we supposed to punish criminals if not as soon as possible?

And the answer, when the criminals are employers who utilize illegal labor, is apparently “never.”

By: joel hanes

joel hanes — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:22:10 +0000

Interesting that the press has run with this one, while ignoring a much larger recent police action in the US.
Honest, now: how many of you have even heard of Operation Falcon III?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/falcon3/index.html

Ten thousand arrested in the Eastern US.
And you never heard a word about it.

Neither did I, until I stumbled acrosss

http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=15838

By: Doobie

Doobie — Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:51:49 +0000

“…moderate to liberal…”?

Compared to whom? David Duke?

By: Jason

Jason — Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:52:56 +0000

What gets me is that I always thought of myself as a moderate to liberal democrat, and it amazes me to find myself so frequently opposed to the stuff written here. Reading this kind of post always leaves me feeling that maybe the conservative Republicans really are right.
Think of the children! Boohoo! The poor children! No mommies at Christmas time?
They are here illegally, they are working illegally, and perhaps some of them committed additional crimes (identity theft) to do be able to do these illegal things, and you're whining about Christmas?
Where do you draw the line? Arrest them in January? Oh no think of the children it's so cold out! Arrest them in February? Oh no think of the children so close to Valentine's Day? Arrest them in March or April? Oh no think of the children it's so close to Jesus' resurrection! May? Too close to cinco de mayo show cultural respect. June? Think of all those weddings the children were supposed to attend! July? Not around our national holiday! August? Oh no too hot!
WHEN!?!?! When are we supposed to punish criminals if not as soon as possible?
Think of the children, huh? Sounds like something their law-breaking parents should have done before committing a series of crimes.
Reading this site frequently makes me feel like the only democrat with a sense of personal responsibility for my own actions.